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Dumbgeons and Dragons needs no introduction, but I mean, that's what this is for.

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You're listening to Dumbgeons and Dragons and it'll start in just a moment.

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The guards watch you as you walk towards and the door opens and take a few steps inside.

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Alistair kind of as there's some slight hesitation, Alistair says,

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we, this is the first possible entrance I've ever seen.

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And he goes through the door, pushes it open and disappears into the darkness.

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Good. I was going to say we should push him through first.

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Well, I don't trust that son of a bitch to go alone.

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So I step through the door.

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You do. Yeah.

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Follow quickly behind.

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And as you step through the door,

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it is a narrow hallway like you could fit to side by side.

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But it's pretty tight.

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Like going single file would be much more comfortable.

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So that said, who is last through the door?

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I'll go last.

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I believe I'm dead center, probably right after Bazaar before Bonwyn.

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You know, the safety snuggle.

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Absolutely.

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Cav, as you take your steps through the door, slam shut behind you,

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hear this burst of air, you turn and you look back

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and you see only stone where there was the red door.

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Dumbgeons and Dragons is a D&D actual play podcast,

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and I'm your dungeon master, Russ More, he him.

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Also with me today is Amy More as Alydin, she her.

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Yeah, you do. You rock.

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Carla Maxted as Bonwyn Everbane, she her.

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Let's stay together this time.

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Tom Laird as Kavlaran Goldweave, he him.

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I lie all the time.

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And Kyle Klasset as Bazaar the Wizard, he him.

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No, that's assault, brother. I'm not doing that.

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You'll get a seven day free trial to check things out.

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And now let's get right to it.

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Fuck it. Let's play.

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And is there a torch in here?

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Do we see that light now or as your eyes begin to transition,

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you do see now that there are several torches down this hallway.

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That seems to go on for quite a ways.

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And it at the end terminates in darkness.

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Hey, guys, just before we get going, just so everyone knows,

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it closed behind us.

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So we're like in here now.

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OK, cool.

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OK, that's OK.

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We've done something like this before.

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Stay close. And it'll be fine.

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Let's stay together this time.

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Love it. Yes.

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You all begin walking single file and you catch up to Alistair,

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who's fallen asleep against one of the walls.

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Classic Alistair. Classic Alistair.

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He's not great at a getaway.

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Or get to it.

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Sorry, everybody.

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I'll I can keep leading if you'd like.

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It's a question, Alistair.

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Do you dream when you have these these naps?

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Uh, no one's ever asked me that before.

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Many you fall asleep.

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He's got his fingers.

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He's got a Chris Angelou mind freak.

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He he looks like he's deep in thought as I.

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I don't think so.

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But I but I.

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I can say a lot of things for certain, but I can't say that for certain.

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OK, cool, cool.

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He's really sitting with this and he turns deep in thought

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and he like reaches for one of the torches and looks at it

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and he passes it back to bizarre.

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I probably shouldn't hold this.

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Oh, OK, yeah, you'll just.

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Right. So take the torch.

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And he begins to walk.

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And he calls out after a few moments and he says,

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I think I see something down at the end.

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Hold the torch up.

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It's flickers in and out of view,

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but it looks like there is a stone door down at the end.

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He goes up to it and I don't see any handles.

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Maybe somebody can help me push.

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He starts throwing himself at it, not violently,

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but like with like some force to try and like move it.

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Wait, wait. OK.

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So when I used to spend some time at one of the barns

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at the edge of town, this guy.

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Jeff would always want the best horse stall.

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Was that Jeff? I met him.

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Yeah, maybe Alistair just wants to be involved.

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No, yeah, you probably did me him.

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Yeah. Was he loud?

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Yeah. Oh, no, this chef was quiet.

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Oh, it's probably different.

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Yeah, you must have met loud Jeff.

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Yeah, he came up to me, said, My name is Jeff.

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I said, OK, great to meet you.

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My name is Alistair.

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And then we don't need to recount the whole conversation.

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Do you have a score to that riveting combo?

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Anyway, he would always

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Ooby trap his door so that if anyone tried to come in one,

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he was out and take his spot.

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They would either end up with horse shit

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poop all over them or a bucket of water on their head or something.

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Wow. So we should look and see if maybe there's

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a booby trap, some sort of trap, some sort of trap.

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Alistair begins running his hands along the door looking for a trap.

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So just a solid stone door.

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Any carvings or anything like that?

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No carvings that are visible appears to be a solid slab.

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No handle.

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Can I use my stone cunning

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where if I make a history check related to the origin of stonework,

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I proficient in that and I can like double my bonus.

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So I sure I know about stone.

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Yeah, you do. You rock because of my heart.

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And so for a double my proficiency bonus.

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So that's an 18.

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That's a great roll.

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I smell it. I like like my finger and put it on and then like my finger again.

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Like, hmm, it's salt.

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I just like the door.

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I'm using all of my senses.

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I love it.

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You're doing this, everybody, in various states of confusion or awe,

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depending on your view in this moment.

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But you identify the stone as diorite,

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which is favored in ancient law codes and royal statues,

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often associated within the space with law and judgment

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or irrevocable decisions.

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Not often something that is used to craft entrances.

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As you continue to examine, you see that there are telltale signs

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that this at least this portion you haven't investigated any further down

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in this, but there are telltale signs that there is dwarven influence

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within the creation of this space, perhaps not directly tied to you.

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But like there are similar.

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You can tell that there are similar tools made.

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You can also tell that this is like a

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a pocket slide kind of door.

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I relay all this to my friends like a grandparent's bathroom.

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Yeah. And maybe in part of my like, as I said, I'm

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I'm laying hands on it.

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And as I realize that, can I try to

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push it to the side?

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Yeah. As that comes to a realization that you push in exactly the right point.

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Like Alistair was just throwing himself at the door.

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He was doing the opposite.

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There's not a lot of weight behind him, like soaking wet.

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He's probably 55 pounds.

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It's like a finesse situation.

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He's a very slender guy.

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But yeah, you push in just the right moment and everybody hears this click.

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And then a ashy dust

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kind of comes out from around the seams of the door,

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and it begins to grind and slide into the wall beside it.

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The room beyond before anybody has a chance to react is not lit.

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You see shadows of what look like pieces of furniture,

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but you can't quite make out anything beyond into the next

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egress or into the next space that you would be going into.

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Even with my dark vision?

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Even with your dark vision at this moment. OK.

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But no arrows shoot out and like kill us all. No.

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Great, because I I interrupted them checking for traps to just open the door.

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Yeah. Well, you know, you were looking for traps and then you were like,

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wait a minute. There's some history here. Yeah.

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Well, it's let's.

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Get that torch in there.

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I mean, like I said, this stone is.

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This is no ordinary place, which I know we already knew,

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but let's just it's been reinforced that this is.

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Ancient and important.

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Well, yeah, and I mean, no ordinary place like literally a door

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disappeared behind us, so like, yeah, 100 percent.

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Indeed, in many ways, not an ordinary place.

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If we bring the torch in, can we see in the room?

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Do you enter the room?

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Yeah, I'm going to enter the room.

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A bunch of us have dark vision.

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He said even with dark vision, we can't see in there with dark vision.

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Oh, I missed it.

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Yeah, from outside the room, you can't make out anything beyond

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the occasion, the briefest silhouette.

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Hold the torch.

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I'll step forward and I'll use control flames to actually

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expand the area of bright light so that we get a little bit more

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more of color out of it and see if it winds up

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diffusing a little bit of that darkness.

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Sure. And sorry, you said you step in or you're doing this in the term

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in trying to illuminate beyond.

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I'm doing it while stepping in.

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OK, sounds good. Bazaar, you're the first to step through

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and everybody else you see the flame.

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Two kind of different views happen.

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Everybody else sees the flame begin to expand at your hand,

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which seems like it's being eaten by this darkness that that is enveloping.

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But Bazaar, as you step into this room,

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take the first few steps beyond the threshold,

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the darkness dissipates.

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It disappears.

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You become the same kind of faint silhouette to everybody else.

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But the room itself now for you is lit

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seemingly by some skylight high up in this room.

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And you see all around this room that there are stone shelves

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carved directly into the walls.

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And all of these shelves hold stone.

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What look like books, each etched with names and titles.

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And there's a inscription on the far door, which I'll wait until

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everybody else decides what they're going to do.

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I'm going to step back out and say,

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come on in. We're good.

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OK, yeah, let's go.

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Everybody else steps through and same kind of a fact happens.

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You step through the darkness and the skylight

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illuminates the space that you're in again.

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Stove shelves carved directly into the walls.

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Stone books on all of these.

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There is a door on the far wall that appears to have an inscription on it.

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And there is a lectern

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placed kind of center back of this room close to the door,

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which looks like it has a place for three books,

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like enough that you could place and or open three books on it.

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The inscription on the far door

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says only what is true may pass unrevised.

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Somebody tell it a secret.

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We know from what Alastair told us that the archive

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will index the truth.

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And we have a lectern, so we can try sharing secrets

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or we could try to see if one of these many, many books

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leads us to what could be true.

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But Alydin, you came up with your idea,

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so you need to you need to commit to it.

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And you need to share a secret with if you do it, I'll share a secret.

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Oh, well, you do it first then.

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Mm hmm.

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Who's your idea?

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I can't think of a secret.

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She's being such a child right now.

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What are Bonwyn and Cav doing?

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Just watching this kind of waiting to see how Secret Gate plays out, right?

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Watching this tennis game.

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Alastair is ignoring everything.

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He's overlooking at the book titles.

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Yes. Actually, what I'm probably doing

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because he read their character sheet, guys,

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I'm going to use my eye for detail and I can make a perception check

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to spot a hidden creature or object or to make an investigation

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check to uncover or decipher clues.

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Shit, my eye doesn't give me jack squat.

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Oh, it does.

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I got fade touched and all I got was this fucked up eye.

254
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Misty step. What are you talking about?

255
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Yeah, that's a good one.

256
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Not on command.

257
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Once a day on command, you can do it.

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Hey, welcome to the middle, everybody.

259
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It's the middle. It's here.

260
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You're here. Fancy meeting you here.

261
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Come here often every week, I hope.

262
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Yes, better be.

263
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I know we do. We do. We do, for sure.

264
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I try to at least. Almost every week.

265
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All of us. Yeah, like as often as I can do it.

266
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

267
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It's fun here.

268
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It's amazing how often it just happens, like unexpectedly, though,

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when, like, we're just chilling, talking, then bam, we're in it.

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You think you're just chatting with your friends and then then suddenly.

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Yeah. Yeah.

272
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So sometimes it's by accident.

273
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But I love when it happens.

274
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Me, too. Me, too.

275
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Yeah. What's new?

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Pussycat. Pussycat.

277
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

278
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Oh, wow. We all hit a different key there.

279
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That was great. I stayed out of it.

280
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Me, too. That was just the boys.

281
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It was. It was just the boys serenading us.

282
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Good for you. We do what we can.

283
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It was gorgeous.

284
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You're going to love that in playback.

285
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Oh, it's going to be great.

286
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I will never hear it. It's fine.

287
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There you go.

288
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You skip the middle stuff.

289
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Uh, yep.

290
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He lived him. He doesn't need to skip them.

291
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He skips them because he's a living.

292
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Yes, just the middle.

293
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Yeah, just the middle.

294
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Just the middle.

295
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His listenership has dropped off in Victoria.

296
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I can't explain it.

297
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Weird. I don't know.

298
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I barely listen to any podcasts at the moment.

299
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So the fact that people can find the time to, like,

300
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still keep up with podcasts, I'm so impressed.

301
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And to keep up with us, us dorms.

302
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Thank you so much. Even more impressive.

303
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What are you doing here? We love you.

304
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We do love you.

305
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We love one person extra special.

306
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Yeah, it's one person's extra love.

307
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We love you, but we extra super duper love our patron

308
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who's sponsoring this week or who we are dedicating this week to.

309
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That's the one. We dedicate it.

310
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I was giving Carla the draw it out side.

311
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And you can get an episode dedicated as well

312
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by going over to Patreon.com slash Dumb Dragon Cast

313
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and signing up there.

314
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Sign up there.

315
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There's other fun stuff. There's episodes.

316
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All sorts of bonus content.

317
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Oh, yeah. You can be as cool as this person.

318
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Yeah, who is starting to realize I need to keep track of all of this stuff.

319
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The medically pronounced.

320
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I think Russ is actually building a computer to look up this.

321
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I don't know what's happening.

322
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I feel like we've really is this crash.

323
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The hard drive. This is what did it.

324
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Yeah, this is what did it.

325
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The person who we are dedicating this episode to today is Sonia Weiberg.

326
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Thank you. Thank you so much.

327
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Yeah, too cool. Yeah.

328
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Too cool for bad ass name. Absolutely.

329
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Yeah, it is. Yeah, I was going to say I had Street Fighter in my mind

330
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because I just watched the Street Fighter trailer again,

331
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but that would be Mortal Kombat. Yeah.

332
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So yeah, related. Yeah, sure.

333
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You know, yeah, similar.

334
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It's all fighting. It's all bad ass.

335
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Yeah, I was going to say I just assume Sonya's a bad ass.

336
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I mean, look, I've only heard of two Sonia's before that one

337
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and the one from like the Arnold Schwarzenegger

338
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movie where he's like the barber Conan Conan Conan.

339
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Blanked on the name of fucking Conan the Bar.

340
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It's literally Conan the Barbarian. Yeah.

341
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You know that, you know, with the guy muscles and he's like,

342
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he's very barbaric. Punches a camel. Yeah. Yeah.

343
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Do yourself a favor, though.

344
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Do not watch the new Red Sonia.

345
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Real bad. Oh, OK, that's too bad.

346
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You know what, Sonia, we can count on our Sonia.

347
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Always. Thanks for being here, Sonia.

348
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Always the best. We love you.

349
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We love you. Russ loves you so much.

350
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He left the podcast.

351
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He literally got up and walked away, letting Loki out.

352
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And he opened the door and then Loki just sat like a very good boy

353
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in front of the open door and looked up at Russ with all the love

354
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in his eyes. And now sitting there like, yeah, no, it's like

355
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I was just crying at this door. It's true.

356
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But yeah, I came back to say thanks, Sonia.

357
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It's signed up today.

358
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Patreon.com slash dumb dragon because we hope to see you over there.

359
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Just like Sonia. And now get back to the episode.

360
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Wait, one one word from producer Jess.

361
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Oh, through the end of the month is 50 percent off.

362
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Through the end of the month is 50 percent off.

363
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And this is still in this month that is happening.

364
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Yeah. Only a few days left.

365
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I'm good college.

366
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Ask you if you're wondering if it's the now it could be.

367
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So go to the Patreon and check 50 percent off.

368
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What a deal. Yeah.

369
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All right. We love you.

370
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Have a great day. We love you.

371
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Bye. Love you. Bye. Love you. Bye.

372
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Sixteen, sixteen.

373
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OK, they're bizarre.

374
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And Alydin are talking about sharing secrets.

375
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Alistair is overlooking at books.

376
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Bonwyn, you are trying to decipher perhaps some sort of meaning

377
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or anything to this.

378
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Looking at the lectern,

379
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looking at the books and looking at the inscription, it is

380
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it becomes clear to you that you must place

381
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as you look at some of the book titles.

382
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You must place three books

383
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that hold truths to allow you to pass.

384
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I've just shared a document with all of the books in this space.

385
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This may be difficult, and I apologize if it is,

386
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but we'll see how it goes.

387
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Hey, we haven't been given a puzzle to solve in some time.

388
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Governed by honest hands certainly isn't a truth.

389
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Governed by omission might be true.

390
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Maybe now. Oh, yeah.

391
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,039
Do they have publication dates?

392
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I grabbed number 17 and I put it on the lectern.

393
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Wizard, the wizard entangled in unpaid debts.

394
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I thought the next one said Tina Fey do not interfere.

395
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And I was like, I am curious about this.

396
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Also, nobody tells Tina Fey what to do.

397
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That's right. Tell me, because you were talking with Alydin before.

398
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Tell me the transition there.

399
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Try to kind of going over it and going back and forth,

400
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kind of see some of the names on it.

401
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I notice like my name,

402
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Wizard, the wizard on a book behind her.

403
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And I'm like,

404
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well, maybe we're both right in a way.

405
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And I will go first.

406
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That's when I walk over to the book that says,

407
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Wizard, the wizard entangled in unpaid debts.

408
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Grab the book off the shelf, put it on the lectern.

409
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You place the book and you hear a whisper.

410
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Bizarre. Accounts pending.

411
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You hear this whispered in like this clear monotone voice.

412
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And the book locks into place with a soft click.

413
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The stone book itself and the lectern around it begin to grow slightly warm.

414
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You feel this sound of air pressure change and like your ears pop

415
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as the book is placed on the lectern.

416
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,440
That seemed to be a good response.

417
00:22:17,599 --> 00:22:21,639
Yeah, I'm going to put a book on the lectern as well called

418
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Bonwyn Everbane, Bearer of the Forge's Burden.

419
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I have doubts about having my name involved in this,

420
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but, you know, Bizarre did it.

421
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So why wouldn't I?

422
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,600
It's the one thing I know to be true.

423
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Exactly. I don't all of the others seem.

424
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I don't know. Like they could be true or not.

425
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Are, can I ask a question?

426
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And you may or may not answer.

427
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Are there only the how many four?

428
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Three? How many books?

429
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Places on the lectern.

430
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,400
There are three places on the lecture.

431
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Are there only three correct books?

432
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,720
That's a great question.

433
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OK, Bonwyn, you see Bizarre place his place,

434
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a book titled with his own name,

435
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and you find one of your own,

436
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and you move to place it onto the lectern as well.

437
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And similarly, you hear this whisper in your head.

438
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Inheritance confirmed.

439
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,960
Same kind of monotone, straightforward voice.

440
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And then the book slightly locks,

441
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like soft locks into place,

442
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and you feel a warmth begin to glow from it

443
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as you're standing beside Bizarre.

444
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And I look at him like, hmm?

445
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,120
What did you hear?

446
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,080
How did you know I heard anything?

447
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,120
I did, I did hear something.

448
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:53,960
Me too.

449
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:56,960
I heard accounts pending.

450
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Did you?

451
00:23:58,039 --> 00:24:00,600
I heard inheritance confirmed.

452
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,519
Fuck.

453
00:24:04,799 --> 00:24:08,759
I was hoping, I was hoping we'd hear the same thing,

454
00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:11,120
and that would make me feel better somehow.

455
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:14,000
I think you should feel OK.

456
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,800
I feel concerned.

457
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,880
Oh, see, I feel like you should feel OK,

458
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,640
and I feel concerned.

459
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,360
Not if you knew my debts.

460
00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:23,960
Everybody, before we place the last book,

461
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hold on, are we sure?

462
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,680
I mean, you've placed both of your names.

463
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,440
She must have had confidence,

464
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,480
but there's only one spot left,

465
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and there are three of us in several books

466
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that don't really tie directly to any one of us.

467
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,720
Well, you know, it's funny you bring that up, Alastair,

468
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because I notice that there's no books tied to you.

469
00:24:47,839 --> 00:24:48,920
No books with your name.

470
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,360
That's strange, isn't it?

471
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,079
Seems odd.

472
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:54,720
Honestly, I hadn't noticed that,

473
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,000
and I appreciate you guys pointing it out.

474
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I can't, I don't,

475
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:01,039
he's looking through the books,

476
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:04,160
he's like, no, there are none with my name on them.

477
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,960
That's right, because you're a nightmare,

478
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,799
and you're not real. Does that mean

479
00:25:06,919 --> 00:25:08,440
no truths?

480
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,680
I'm a real boy, bizarre.

481
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:14,359
Pinch me.

482
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,200
No, that's assault, brother, I'm not doing that.

483
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,000
Maybe it's tied to location,

484
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,039
because we have Nigel Knops on here,

485
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:23,440
so I mean, that's a Vintersmouth thing,

486
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maybe, depending on where this doorway opens

487
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in the world, it has different-

488
00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:29,159
Oh, it's like regionally based.

489
00:25:29,159 --> 00:25:30,919
Different titles, different, yes.

490
00:25:30,919 --> 00:25:31,759
Okay.

491
00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:36,639
Perhaps, or perhaps Alastair is a nightmare.

492
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,000
I don't know the answer.

493
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960
I don't think I'm a nightmare.

494
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,160
That's exactly what a nightmare would think.

495
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,960
I'm just trying to find the archive.

496
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,759
Cav, do either of the ones with your name on it,

497
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:53,680
do you feel confident?

498
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:59,600
I mean, what confidence filled both Bonwyn and Bizard?

499
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,200
Both Bonwyn and Bizard.

500
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Because I see my book titles there,

501
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,720
and I don't feel particularly confident

502
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,600
about either of them.

503
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,360
See, I felt very confident.

504
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,680
Yeah, I felt very confident,

505
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,200
only because I usually don't make poor decisions,

506
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,960
and this one was probably the poorest decision I've made.

507
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,000
Just wait till my later teen years.

508
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,160
Now, see, in the philosophy of these books, too,

509
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:32,640
all contracts are voluntary.

510
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040
The contract of life isn't voluntary.

511
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:35,880
Indeed.

512
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,800
You know, so really philosophically,

513
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,000
and this goes back to what Alastair was saying,

514
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,000
is the truth according to the archives, so.

515
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:48,480
Yes.

516
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,480
Yes, many of these are ambiguous.

517
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,480
They could be true, or they could not be true,

518
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,440
but they are not truth.

519
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,400
If that makes sense.

520
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,360
See, like, the Fae do not interfere.

521
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,080
We know that to be false.

522
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,240
That is not accurate.

523
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,759
But the Fae partners in silence,

524
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:09,040
do the Fae work together?

525
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,400
I mean, well.

526
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,240
That could be true.

527
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,160
That could be true, because it deals with yours,

528
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,120
and then, of course,

529
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,960
Banger Man was working for somebody,

530
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,600
so that could be a truth.

531
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,400
I mean, even Nigel Knapp's corrupt in all things.

532
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,960
My instinct says yes, but then I think,

533
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,240
well, in all things.

534
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,680
In all things, exactly.

535
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:28,800
That can't be true.

536
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:30,039
Yeah.

537
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:31,480
He's definitely not useful.

538
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,639
No.

539
00:27:32,639 --> 00:27:34,079
Well, I guess as a Patsy.

540
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:38,519
Yeah.

541
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:39,919
It gets useful to who?

542
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,919
It's a great question.

543
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:43,359
The council, I guess.

544
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,480
I don't know who the council is.

545
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,000
Yes.

546
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,279
The mayor serves the people, I mean.

547
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:50,119
Nope.

548
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,639
I mean, Nina seems to now,

549
00:27:51,639 --> 00:27:54,519
but Knapp certainly didn't, and.

550
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:56,359
Is anyone really serving the people?

551
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,720
Are they just there to get paid?

552
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,680
So cynical for such a young person.

553
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800
I was there to get paid in a tax break.

554
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,760
Forgotten Bazaar was working for the bad guys

555
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:07,840
for a while there.

556
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,320
Yeah, he's a city employee, too.

557
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,960
Any of y'all have a conviction

558
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,760
on what our third truth should be?

559
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,560
I mean, if it was like Kavlaran Goldweave,

560
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,480
free of professional ambition, 100% I'm in,

561
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,880
but like free of ambition overall, that's just.

562
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:29,720
That's true.

563
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,160
I mean, remember we did those games

564
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,599
to go on that adventure that went very poorly,

565
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:39,640
but you were competitive in those games.

566
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,480
Absolutely.

567
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,640
So you're not free of ambition entirely.

568
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,480
And I mean, I don't feel like I'm bound to the truth.

569
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,400
I lie like a fucking, I lie all the time.

570
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,759
I'm lying right now.

571
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,480
I don't know how to feel about this.

572
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:59,440
What about truth revised to endure?

573
00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:02,839
We know that truth can be revised.

574
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,240
Memories were being destroyed and erased and stolen.

575
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,920
Oh, interesting.

576
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,240
See, I took that title a different way

577
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400
in that our personal truth becomes revised

578
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,720
in our own brains so that we can continue living

579
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,319
without the burden of all of the knowledge

580
00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:25,960
that might hurt us over and over again.

581
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,159
Yeah, or similar to how the victors write history.

582
00:29:29,159 --> 00:29:30,159
Indeed. Sure.

583
00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:31,000
Indeed.

584
00:29:32,439 --> 00:29:36,079
Memory subject to seizure, memory as personal property.

585
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,839
I mean, I can seize my own memories.

586
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:41,480
I would have thought personal property, but yes.

587
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,039
But then when we were,

588
00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:45,439
and we were in the bubbles and the thing,

589
00:29:45,439 --> 00:29:49,599
and I mean, they were subject to seizure.

590
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:50,559
We could lose them.

591
00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:51,559
I lost some.

592
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:57,279
So if this is the objective truth of the Weeping Archive,

593
00:29:57,279 --> 00:30:00,159
it would not consider itself preserving control

594
00:30:00,159 --> 00:30:01,799
but preserving knowledge

595
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:04,679
because it is holding on to what it considers true.

596
00:30:04,679 --> 00:30:06,759
So I think right now we've boiled it down

597
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:10,079
to potentially the Weeping Archive preserves knowledge

598
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:13,200
and the Fae partners in silence.

599
00:30:14,639 --> 00:30:17,559
But does it preserve knowledge?

600
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:18,759
It thinks it does.

601
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:20,240
It thinks it does.

602
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,720
But what if this isn't about what it thinks,

603
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:27,319
but whoever is adding the information to the archive.

604
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:28,960
This is layers on layers.

605
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,519
Well, that's on us too soon.

606
00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:31,599
But they would also think

607
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,480
that the archive preserves knowledge.

608
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,000
That's why they're supplying the knowledge to the archive.

609
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,160
Does a bad thing happen

610
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,720
if we put the wrong book down, does it say?

611
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,880
I don't see anything anywhere over here.

612
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,559
I feel like that feels the closest to the truth

613
00:30:48,639 --> 00:30:52,000
that the archive would believe.

614
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,039
Says only what is true may pass unrevised.

615
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,480
What does unrevised mean?

616
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,240
That probably doesn't sound very good.

617
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,480
Whatever we put down, they're gonna change.

618
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,039
If it's not right.

619
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:06,039
Oh.

620
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:09,639
Well, perhaps we're not able to,

621
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,359
if you put down something wrong and then pass through,

622
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:18,359
it's maybe rewriting history.

623
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:19,960
For us.

624
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,519
Oh, damn, I really fucked up.

625
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,679
Was that bizarre saying that or Kyle?

626
00:31:30,679 --> 00:31:32,359
No, that was bizarre saying that.

627
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:33,200
Okay.

628
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,960
What happened, why?

629
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,879
Well, I mean, if that hypothesis is right,

630
00:31:37,879 --> 00:31:40,879
is that it's changing our history.

631
00:31:40,879 --> 00:31:43,559
I just put myself into a bunch of fucking debt

632
00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:46,159
and not thinking about the debt that I do have.

633
00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:47,000
Yes.

634
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,640
Jesus Christ, do I have a home now?

635
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,240
Or will it erase your debt?

636
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,880
It says entangled in unpaid debts.

637
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,119
I'm the bearer of the forge's burden.

638
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:58,960
And then it said inheritance confirmed.

639
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,119
So like that is, there's no getting out of it now.

640
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,599
Right, I've like committed,

641
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,079
even though I had already committed.

642
00:32:07,079 --> 00:32:09,200
I guess mine said it counts pending, so.

643
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,799
Maybe let's put the Weeping Archive

644
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:16,839
preserves knowledge.

645
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:17,839
Let's see what happens.

646
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:19,399
We can't just stay here forever.

647
00:32:19,399 --> 00:32:21,879
I didn't bring enough snacks.

648
00:32:21,879 --> 00:32:22,720
Who places it?

649
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:26,359
Me.

650
00:32:26,359 --> 00:32:28,720
Bon, when you pull the book off the shelves,

651
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,480
the Weeping Archive preserves knowledge

652
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,680
and similar to placing the other book,

653
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,879
you place this book,

654
00:32:38,879 --> 00:32:42,919
which you identify as limestone, down on the lectern

655
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,880
and a whisper, similar, same voice.

656
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,880
But this time, the voice is colder.

657
00:32:57,279 --> 00:33:01,120
Knowledge is incidental.

658
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,800
You hear that in your head

659
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,800
and you see fine cracks appear along the book itself.

660
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,720
The stone, as you can feel it placed,

661
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,319
it doesn't click the same way.

662
00:33:15,319 --> 00:33:17,639
It begins to grow cold in your hands.

663
00:33:17,639 --> 00:33:21,799
These fine cracks form across the book

664
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:23,440
and then quickly seal themselves.

665
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,440
And everybody hears the walls begin to slide in closer.

666
00:33:29,839 --> 00:33:33,559
Oh, oh, come on.

667
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,960
Dumbgeons and Dragons, season four, episode 50,

668
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,039
starring Amy More as Alydin,

669
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:47,319
Carla Maxted as Bonwyn Everbane,

670
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:49,519
Tom Laird as Kavlaran Goldweave,

671
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,039
Kyle Claset as Bizard the Wizard,

672
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,639
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673
00:33:54,639 --> 00:33:56,279
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674
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:58,480
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675
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,919
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676
00:34:00,919 --> 00:34:02,839
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677
00:34:02,839 --> 00:34:04,919
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678
00:34:04,919 --> 00:34:07,039
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679
00:34:07,079 --> 00:34:09,800
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680
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,239
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681
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682
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683
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:18,759
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684
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685
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,599
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686
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:28,960
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687
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691
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692
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693
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,639
Yes, and we'll talk to you very, very soon.

694
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:50,559
Lapped it.

695
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,599
Ah, I lapped it.

696
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,360
Oh, and then there's another timer down there.

697
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,559
Yeah, yes.

698
00:34:55,559 --> 00:34:56,720
Deep breath, Russ.

699
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,480
That's what happens when you time a lap.

700
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,440
You can even- Fuck it, let's play.

701
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,480
You can even name the laps if you want.

702
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,559
You're sucked forcefully through the door

703
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:08,639
and you're all dead.

704
00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:10,840
Oh, holy hell.

705
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,679
It's that weird- What's that about that lap?

706
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:14,039
From the first President Evil movie.

707
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:15,280
Oh my God.

708
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,480
I didn't know this would be a point

709
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,280
of contention in our marriage.

710
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,240
I mean, you had to have a feeling.

711
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:24,039
I mean, what's come up so far?

712
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:26,119
Not much, who knew?

713
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:28,559
This and kitty cat wine openers.

714
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:31,440
You okay, Kyle?

715
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,079
Elgut is choking up with all this knowledge of magic.

716
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,760
Fucking love it, man.

717
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,320
You feel your feelings.

718
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,760
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