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Dumbgeons and Dragons will begin in a moment.

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In the town of Vintersmouth, bureaucratic crimes are considered especially tedious.

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The municipal government employs two types of clerics, those who heal the wounded and those

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who file the paperwork. When Kavlaran Goldweave, a half-elf cleric and auditor from Kingstown,

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discovered discrepancies in the mayor's ledgers, he did what any lawful good citizen

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would do. He reported it. Now he stands accused of forgery and tampering with evidence.

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The problem? Kavlaran once got locked in a supply closet for six hours. He regularly

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files documents in alphabetical order by the wrong letter. And last week, accidentally,

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he laminated his own hand. These are his stories.

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Dumbgeons and Dragons is a D&D actual play podcast, and I'm your dungeon master Russ More,

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he, him. Also with me today is Amy More as Alydin, she, her.

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I wonder how these people fix their problems. Carla Maxted as Bonwyn Everbane, she, her.

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We're making it Canadian and everyone has to wear a robe. Sorry.

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Tom Laird as Kavlaran Goldweave, he, him. Oh, okay. Great. That's not upsetting in any

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way, shape, or form. And Kyle Claset as Bizard the Wizard, he, him.

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Oh, dope. Now I know what we're going to do. With special guest this week from Greetings

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Adventurers, Tim Lanning, he, him. If the clock is broken, just do it.

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A quick shout out to our Patreon family who make this show possible and get 130 or more

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exclusive episodes for their trouble. That's like a lot of D&D that you can get right

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now. Patreon.com slash dumb dragon cast. We hope to see you over there and now fuck it. Let's play.

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Kavlaran, Thurston, Lawfulgood, Benson Benson, and your entire team are led into the court.

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The courtroom, very much like a lot of things at City Hall, is very well put together.

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Very ornate and intricate carvings of judges come and gone. There are tapestries up on the wall.

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The jury bench is empty as you enter. There are a few people in the audience.

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It's an audience for a gallery. A gallery. That's what it is. Yes.

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That sounds more accurate than the crowd. The spectators. The fans. The pit of fans.

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The running man. There's signs. Let Kav go. He didn't do it. Down with the auditor.

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That sort of thing. I'm just a fan of law and procedure. I'm just here.

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Doddy McBottlebow, the local town gossip or newspaper reporter, is also there. As you enter,

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Kav and your lawyer are led into the defense side of the courtroom. As you get settled in,

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a couple moments later, you hear the doors open again and in comes the prosecution.

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Crocker Shaw. Thurston, you recognize this guy as he enters. He is unnaturally tall. He's a

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tiefling and has horns that curve sharply backwards. His skin is smooth and pale gray,

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like the underside of a storm cloud, and seems to absorb torchlight rather than reflect it.

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He's got no visible scars, no blemishes, no tattoos. Nothing is out of place.

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Fuck. Smash.

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He's wearing an impeccably tailored high collared black robe. Not the city's legal

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robes, but a sleeker version stitched with subtle infernal motifs along the sleeves and hem.

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He has a silver cravat and is always perfect. His gloves always spotless.

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He enters with four legal aides behind him who are carrying his tails on his outfit,

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and he sees you, Thurston, as you kind of look back over your shoulder and he gives a

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sly smile and nod as he goes and sits at the prosecution.

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Fuck you.

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It's a pleasure to see you, Thurston.

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Yeah, whatever.

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Uh, so that's the Croker guy?

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Yeah, Shaw. We don't like Shaw. He's, uh, unnaturally good at this stuff.

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Oh, okay. Great. That's not upsetting in any way, shape, or form.

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Oh, yeah. The judge we got, great news. Shaw, probably four to nine times worse news.

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Oh, okay.

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He's really good, but he's bad. So he would not defend you because you're innocent,

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if that makes sense.

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Russ, are we, the rest of us outside, because we are to be waiting to be called as witnesses?

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No, you're in the gallery.

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All right. Things are loosey goosey here in Vindersmith. Who knows how the legal system works.

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Yeah. When, when you're like, what am I wearing? I was like, oh crap,

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am I going to have to do like robes and powder wig? I don't know what the lore is.

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I panicked.

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You did a great job.

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We're making it up right now.

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We're making it Canadian and everyone has to wear a robe. Sorry.

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I'm not from Canada.

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Welcome to the party.

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They keep rubbing it in.

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You really hit that R nicely right there.

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Smash some Dunkin' Donuts and you guys can have that other stuff.

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That maple syrup.

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Jimothy Hortons.

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You see Shaw neatly stacking, and all of his legal aides, neatly stacking papers

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and reviewing everything as the jurors door opens.

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And in walk 12 individuals who you recognize from around town,

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but none of you have a very personal relationship with them.

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After they all come in and are seated there, a couple of them are looking

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skeptically towards Kavlaran.

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Juror number eight has a look about them that says that they're,

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they're trying to get a read of you.

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And juror number three is, there's something Kavlaran,

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you catch something off about the way that they're looking at you.

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But then they quickly look away once you kind of lock eyes.

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After a moment, the, the guard comes in and says,

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Judge Sterling Delacour now presides.

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Judge Delacour enters from their chambers.

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And they are statuesque in both presence and poise,

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a half elf of indeterminate age.

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She carries herself with the composure of someone who spent decades

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watching powerful people unravel in front of her and not blinking once.

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Her olive skin tones, her features, sharply defined,

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high cheekbones, angular jaw, eyes the color of polished amber.

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Always watching and measuring.

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Smash.

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Silver streaked black hair is coiled tightly into a crown braid

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held in place by a modest iron circlet.

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The only ornament she appears to be wearing.

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She's wearing a deep Navy judicial coat, crisp and minimal,

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adorned with only the insignia of the Court of Public Integrity on one shoulder.

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A silver scale broken on one side mended with gold

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and beneath hints of well-maintained chain beneath her robe

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suggests she's no stranger to the idea of proceedings turning violent.

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Oh, dope.

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Now I know what we're going to do.

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I'm sorry.

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There's there.

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It's scales.

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One side is broken, but mended with gold.

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It's like I wonder how these people fix their problems, right?

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The way they describe it, it's not that big.

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It makes sense the way they say it.

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She speaks with a very low and resonant tone,

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cutting through noise without needing to rise.

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And when she speaks, it feels like the room has agreed to listen.

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And she looks over to the defense and then to the prosecution

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and sits down behind her bench looking out at the gallery.

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Look at us using law terms.

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It looks to you, Thurston, and to Kroker Shaw

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and calls you up to her bench.

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Go up?

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Are the two of you prepared?

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Oh, absolutely.

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And have your list of witnesses?

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Kroker pauses for a moment and, as didn't want to interrupt,

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we are prepared for today and things will go as expected, I think.

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Mm.

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Whatever.

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He turns to you and puts out his hand for a handshake, Thurston.

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I'll shake it quickly and not very spiritedly.

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Best of luck.

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Thanks, Shaw.

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I appreciate it.

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And I look over to the judge and I do one of those, this guy, this guy.

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She looks up as she's writing some notes down on a page and

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politely says, Mm-hmm.

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After a brief moment, everybody settles in their place.

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And now for opening statements.

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We'll start with the prosecution.

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And Kroker Shaw stands up and lightly clears his throat and walks over to the jury.

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He says, Members of the jury, good morning.

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In a moment, the defense will tell you this is a misunderstanding,

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a clerical mix-up, a matter of numbers, just decimal points and ink.

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He paces slowly in front of the jury's box, hands behind his back.

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But Vintersmouth knows better.

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We've seen what happens when discontent is fed falsehood,

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when civil servants reach too far cloaking ambition in the costume of integrity.

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He walks slowly during this across to the defense and stands by you, Kavlaran,

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gives a courteous nod.

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There's no kindness in his eyes.

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The accused did not merely file a report.

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He fabricated entire documents.

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He conjured a conspiracy from shadows and scribbles and then, as if by design,

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vanished for three weeks while panic spread.

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Turning back to the jury.

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The ledgers he submitted to Kingstown altered.

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The recipients listed widely misrepresented.

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The totals inflated.

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We will show you copies, we will show you the originals,

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and we will present expert testimony confirming the tampering.

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He now moves towards the judge's bench, eyes on Delacour.

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This case isn't about politics.

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It's about accountability.

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It's about the stability of our institutions.

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When we allow fiction to masquerade as fact, we weaken the foundation of law itself.

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This trial is not vengeance.

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It is correction.

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And when the facts lie bare before you, I trust

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you will do what is necessary to protect the city from those who would torch it

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in the name of truth.

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He offers the faintest practiced bow.

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The crown rests for now.

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He looks to you, Thurston, as he goes and sits back down.

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I will take a quick shaky drink of water, check a note or three,

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and then stand up and kind of stand in front of the jurors and jury.

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Fine people of Venturesmouth, judge, everyone out in the gallery here,

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thank you for being part of the process.

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It means a lot to all of us.

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You're going to hear a lot of fancy words thrown out.

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You're going to hear a lot of misdirection, but I want to kind of focus our attention today

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on the simple fact that this is a setup on my client.

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We, as the defense, do not need to solve the ledgers.

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We do not need to prove why they were cooked.

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We do not need to prove who did it.

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I am here to simply say my client didn't do it, and I will provide expert witnesses

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of our own that will show that my client wouldn't do it, wasn't capable of doing it,

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and tried to do the right thing as they found the, I guess we will say,

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inconvenient information that was passed to their office.

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We have experts that will testify that, and I look kind of pointedly at the judge

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and then at Shaw, the only piece of evidence we were allowed to see, not the originals,

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but this exhibit, I'm just going to call it A because that's all we have,

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because that's all the crown deigned to let us have, was doctored, magically.

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The crown alleges that my client, through some conspiracy theory, did this to stir up unrest.

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There was a political agenda here.

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Again, simply put, we will show that there is no agenda because that was not something

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that happened. It's going to be hard for us to prove a few negatives, but honestly,

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the crown's story here is a little too cut and dry for my taste, and if anyone in

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Venter's mouth has been through any proceedings such as this before, we know this wouldn't be

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the first time. So thank you for your time, and just remember, truth is usually simpler

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than fiction. As you go to sit back down, you hear just under his breath, Croker says,

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playing the incompetence trick again. If the clock is broken, just do it.

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Now's the time.

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Exactly. Now's the time for the middle.

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The middle, where we talk about how Peggy is a nickname for Margaret and how that makes no sense.

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Our usual middle topic, yeah?

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And not Pegafred.

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Cut it in, it's funny, but that's right, still flows.

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We wish for more summer.

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Happy to get back to regularly seeing my best friends.

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Absolutely.

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Speaking of best friends, also when you become a patron,

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you wind up getting a show dedicated to you or an episode dedicated to you.

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That's true.

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That does happen every time.

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It happens every time, and we are always prepared for it.

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So if you think we aren't, I'm going to take a moment.

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Can I take a moment right here right now to let our patrons know that you think we may

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not be prepared for it, but I believe we absolutely are on every single occasion.

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There's not a doubt in my mind.

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We have always figured out who that person is.

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And Russ, you're going to tell us right now who that person is just to show everybody.

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Just to show everybody that we were exactly on time when we started to talk about this.

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It was Hannah Gilliwick.

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Kyle, for reminding me of something important that is when an episode is

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dedicated to you, you are actually our best friend for the day.

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Yes, absolutely.

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If you read the fine print when you sign up for Patreon, it says that.

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Absolutely.

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You just got five new best friends.

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And you know what?

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I'm throwing Jess in there, too.

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You just got six new best friends.

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When I woke up this name and I saw

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when I woke up this morning and I saw Hannah's name, I was like,

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this is going to be a good day because that's how long ago we knew.

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Oh, yeah.

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Hours ago.

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Oh, yeah.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you, best friend Hannah Gilliwick and all of these best friends.

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Come join us today at patreon.com slash dumb dragon cast 50 percent off,

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which means you get, I don't know, 18 weeks free.

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We'll round it up.

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It just keeps getting bigger every time I talk about it.

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But we'll get you back to the episode where Tim Tim Lanning's with us.

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Oh, yeah.

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Love that guy.

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Oh, Tim.

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He's great.

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You should go listen to his stuff, too.

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Greetings, adventures and all the other things that are down in the description.

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Bye for now.

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Love you.

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Love you.

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Love you.

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Bye.

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Judge Delacour, who's taken a few notes as both opening statements have proceeded,

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says, call your first witness.

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Croker Shaw stands up and says, we would like to call one Oak to the stand.

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Oh, God.

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Coming in from the back of the room, we see Oak.

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Oak is a human.

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He's got very disheveled hair.

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He's got pocket protector.

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Light brown khaki slacks, belt done up a little too high

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so that his pants are a little bit flood pants at this point.

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And he skips in and pushes the door, pushes the swinging gate to get in

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and looks over to Cav and says and just kind of like finger guns.

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I got you, buddy.

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Is that good?

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I mean, if Croker's calling him and he's finger gunning you, I'm mixed messages here.

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I mean, I don't know.

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That's usually just how he says hi.

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So you see him walk by the jury and he finger guns all of the jury members, too.

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He's starting off bad.

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That doesn't look good, but he's not our witness.

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How many of them finger gunned back?

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Three, three.

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A quarter.

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And goes up and takes a seat.

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Amy, what in this world do we put our hand on to

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say that we're telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

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The Christian Bible.

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It's just the Christian Bible again.

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If it works here, it works there.

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I think it is the written laws of Vinter Smith.

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So they compiled a book of laws and bylaws that all citizens agree to abide by.

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Good answer, Amy.

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It's like, do we have a Bible?

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I'm sure there's some form of religious text, but not so widespread that it would be

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acceptable as the Christian Bible in particular.

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Much of the gods thing going on right now.

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What do they put in the damn hotels?

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The rules and regulations of how to participate in wing night.

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Yeah, that is true.

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Yeah, they put dried lentils in all of the hotels.

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But Oak goes up and puts his hand on the laws and the guard says,

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do you swear to tell the whole truth and some of the truth and probably most of the truth?

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Oak looks back and says, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so.

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I mean, I'll tell everything I know.

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Shaw gets up and he slowly walks over looking to the defense and says,

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Mr. Oak, would you consider yourself a close friend of the defendant?

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Oak looks back and says, well, yeah, yeah, of course.

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I mean, he and I, we're best buddies.

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We went out and did best friend things.

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We got tattoos together.

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We had beverages.

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We had, well, we talked about the best foot scrub

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that we could, Shaw stops and says, thank you, that's enough.

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And yet, despite your closeness, you claim to have no knowledge

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of these allegedly forged ledgers until after they were submitted.

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Says, well, yeah, no, I didn't know that that's what Cav was doing.

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He looks over at Cav, kind of nervous.

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Kind of shoot him a little, like, I'm sorry face.

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See, like, crestfallen.

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Like, I thought we were good buds.

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I thought he'd tell me.

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Oh, yeah, a little bit.

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That's the kind of vibe, yeah.

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Do you know of anyone else other than the accused who had access

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to those ledgers before they were reported to Kingstown?

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Well, do I know anybody else?

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I mean, Cav hangs out a lot with Bonwyn and Buzard and Allen.

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I don't know if they had it in particular.

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And Bench too, like, he's very close with them.

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But again, no, I don't know.

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You trust the defendant implicitly.

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That's commendable.

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Would you trust them with, say, falsified evidence

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if you believed it served the greater good?

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Well, I mean, I trust Cav with anything.

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I trust Cav with anything.

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But I don't believe that Cav would falsify anything.

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Looks uncertain.

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Shaw takes a step back and says no further questions.

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I'll stand up.

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Are we allowed to believe that your feelings are hurt?

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That he didn't tell you about highly incriminating, illegal, dangerous information?

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Well, not so much the illegality of it.

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But yeah, I thought we were getting to be pretty good friends

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who might share some of those things with each other.

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If we thought maybe we were in trouble or like there was something going on.

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Because I really, I thought, I thought we were.

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Let me stop you there.

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Your friendship is not part of the-

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Oh, yeah.

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Question here.

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It's a matter of safety.

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And is it true that if you were to get interesting information at work,

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you would go and tell your mother about it?

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Objection?

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Relevance?

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It's necessary for why my client did not tell you.

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Well, yeah, of course.

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I would, of course, tell my mother everything.

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Mom and I were talking last night about coming here today.

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And how I was going to just tell all the truth that I know about Cav.

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And I would absolutely-

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Thank you.

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The court appreciates that.

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And this is Tim talking.

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Whenever I see real lawyers, they don't say the next thing.

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Which is like, obviously, he didn't tell you because your mom would get murdered.

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They just look at the jury and sit down.

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And I'm like, how am I supposed to know that?

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Especially now that you know that juries are dumb.

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So you have to really be explicit.

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Because, yeah, you can't be like, well, dangerous things are dangerous, right?

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And you like your mom alive, right?

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Yeah.

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But in your time of working with the accused,

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have you noticed any other aberrations of misconduct?

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Any other aberrations of misconduct?

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No.

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Well, no.

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I mean, I come to work.

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I do all of the paperwork.

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I make sure that everything, Cav, you kind of catch a look from him.

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Like he's about to say that he does all of your work,

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but like he's probably holding it back.

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He's like, yeah.

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I just give him like a real like, go ahead.

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No, it's fine.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I did all the work.

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I did my work and some of Cav's work.

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And like nothing, everything checks and bAlydinces all across the board.

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So Cav was not a motivated worker?

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No.

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Well, no, let me take that back.

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I don't mean no.

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I mean, he was really good.

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Team morale is what Cav excelled at.

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Like he was-

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A personality hire.

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I think, yeah.

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No, Cav was there to do a specific job and that was to audit the mayor's office.

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But the mayor's office gave him another task, which was paperwork.

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I see.

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Well, thank you for your time.

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No further questions.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Shaw stands back up.

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Just one more question.

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Was he Columbo?

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Right.

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Get out of here, Columbo.

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You're not Columbo, Shaw.

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You could not feel his, what do you call that jacket?

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Not a duster, is it?

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Have you personally reviewed the figures in the ledgers?

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Well, no, I haven't.

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I haven't actually seen them.

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They were taken to Kingstown apparently and then

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brought back here by that group that came from Kingstown to do the thorough investigation.

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And then they were put into evidence.

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He says, well, are you an expert in municipal budgeting or arcane forgery detection?

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No, no, not at all.

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I'm an expert in friendship and knowing when my friends are telling me the truth.

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Friendship is magic.

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I give him finger guns back, but like real subtly.

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Yeah, no, he's like below the banister, but between the railings, like you can see,

448
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like he's giving you finger guns.

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All right.

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He sits back down, looks over at you, Thurston, and his oak heads back out to the

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gallery and oak kind of shrugs going back.

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He's not as chipper as he when he went in, but shrugs back a cab.

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Like, I hope I did a good job.

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Thurston Shaw looks over at you and says, you're your witness next.

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All right.

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I call to the stand.

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Bizarre.

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Bizarre stands up, walks in, gets in the witness stand.

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The guard brings over the book of laws and says, do you swear to tell the truth,

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some of the truth, and probably most of the truth by the end of this?

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I do.

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Roger that.

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Slams it shut on your hand by accident and says, oh, son of a bitch.

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Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.

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Not cool.

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00:30:44,639 --> 00:30:49,359
Mr. Bizarre, will you tell the court what you do for work?

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00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:57,680
Well, I previously was an advisor to Mayor Knops, but my primary position is the owner of

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the store previously known as the Magic Closet.

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Wonderful.

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Then I would grab the evidence, the supposed copy of the municipal budget ledger excerpt

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I'm bringing for the court and the judge and all you find people here.

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The only piece of evidence we are provided to look at, not the originals, only this

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makes me think anyways.

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What do you see in front of you here?

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I see a document that you've provided to me the other day in preparation for the trial

476
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that we're in right now.

477
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Using the magical abilities of identification, I was able to determine certain figures that

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shimmer under intense scrutiny, hidden glyphs that create inconsistency and a glyph that also

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causes misinformation to slowly bleed through as the document is being observed.

480
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Interesting, interesting.

481
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:09,039
So you are alleging under oath that this document, the only document provided as the

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proof that my client cooked the books has been magically altered.

483
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Yes.

484
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And if provided any further documentation, I'd be able to perform the same ritual to

485
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determine any magical tampering.

486
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:26,079
No further questions.

487
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:26,799
Thank you.

488
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:32,799
Shaw stands up, comes over and has a copy of the ledger as well.

489
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,839
And it's a pleasure to meet you, Bazaar.

490
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:41,280
You testify that you examined the ledger.

491
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:49,120
Was this before or after your mother moved in with a pirate captain and changed your store's

492
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,680
layout without your consent?

493
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,640
Objection.

494
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,280
Relevance?

495
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,560
Honestly.

496
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,080
He looks to the judge and says, goes to showing the current

497
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,480
level of stability in our witness's life.

498
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,480
Judge, my witness is not here because of being stable.

499
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,240
It's his ability with magic.

500
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,720
And as we know, oftentimes magic doers can be eccentric.

501
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,400
Withdrawn, withdrawn.

502
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:24,319
Bazaar, did you cast identify in the presence of neutral observers or did you perform

503
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:31,120
your analysis alone in your closet full of whispering socks and self-holding trousers?

504
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,360
I did it in front of the court appointed attorney and their assistant.

505
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,040
So the defense?

506
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Yes, yes, the defense.

507
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,800
And it wasn't the entire ledger.

508
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:52,880
It was the specific page of the document that was provided to Thurston.

509
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Interesting.

510
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,680
Is it true you've accused your rival,

511
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:06,160
William Vanderhootz of plotting against you using enchanted pickles?

512
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,960
If they were enchanted pickles, then that was lost on me.

513
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,519
They just seemed like inferior magical products based off of my examination.

514
00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:22,800
And I wouldn't say that him being able to, what was the verb?

515
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,240
What was the wording that you used?

516
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,400
My rival?

517
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,039
Yes.

518
00:34:27,039 --> 00:34:28,000
Yes, your rival.

519
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:35,679
It seems well known in the city that one looks down at a note and says,

520
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,760
who you refer to as Billy Magics.

521
00:34:41,039 --> 00:34:43,280
I wouldn't consider him my rival.

522
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,639
I'm very well established in this city.

523
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,440
Where's his store?

524
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:51,940
Get up.

525
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:54,639
Just have one more question.

526
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:59,679
You claim to serve truth and magical transparency,

527
00:35:00,799 --> 00:35:05,279
and yet you work directly for the mayor's office.

528
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,960
Doesn't that put you in an awkward position?

529
00:35:11,839 --> 00:35:15,199
Only if one is not able to separate from work itself.

530
00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:19,519
You have to be able to remain objective in many aspects of life, even within magic.

531
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,400
See, if you do not have objectivity in the ways you approach your profession

532
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:30,720
or your trade, then you will never be able to see it from outside of the looking glass.

533
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:36,160
He kind of walks by the jury and his hand drags along.

534
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,000
I apologize.

535
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,280
Final question, Master Wizard.

536
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:48,880
Would you stake your entire shop, your business, your legacy,

537
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:56,240
on your certainty that Lee's ledgers were in fact tampered with?

538
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,720
Tampered with by whom?

539
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:00,800
That is part of the question, isn't it?

540
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,079
Who are you asking me that I would stake my claim on that they were tampered by?

541
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,400
Who do you think tampered with them?

542
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,160
I would say that I would put up my entire estate.

543
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:17,440
Objection. He does not have to answer who he thinks, as I said.

544
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,119
We are not here to prove who did it, just that it was done.

545
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:25,039
No further questions, Your Honor.

546
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:37,760
Dumbgeons and Dragons Season 4 Episode 34 Starring Amy More as Alydin,

547
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,559
Carla Maxted as Bonwyn Everbane, Tom Laird as Kavlaran Goldweave,

548
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:46,799
Kyle Claset as Bizard the Wizard with Russ More as your dungeon master,

549
00:36:46,799 --> 00:36:53,199
and special guest Tim Lanning from Greetings Adventurers, Naruto Revuto, and Tribulation

550
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:58,079
Farce. Find more from Tim at geeklyinc.com and listen next episode.

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He's not going anywhere for a little while.

552
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,079
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553
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:08,480
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554
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