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Kavlaran, you and all of your friends here, Bonwyn, Bizard and Alydin are all in in your apartment, because that's where you've been relegated to the couple days before your trial.

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We actually find you at the door because it had knocked and you are talking to your neighbor, Mrs. Dubber Flint.

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Now Kavlaran, they were watching-

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How does a lady live in the divorced dad's apartment building?

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That's a great question.

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Oh, you can ask any questions you'd like.

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Okay, Kavlaran, they've been watching you and I think they've been watching my cat too.

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Oh, which cat? You have like five of them.

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Frederick, particularly.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, that makes sense.

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So what are they watching you for? They're watching Frederick because he, well, he pees in places.

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I mean-

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Are you too?

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Weirdly enough, same.

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Same, same?

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Oh, you and Frederick would get along so well.

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Let me go get him.

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And she starts walking back to her apartment.

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When, as you're about to close the door, you hear the door to the stairwell down the hall open, which catches your attention.

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And you see a person starting to walk down towards you who's followed by a short halfling with carrying a whole bunch of bags.

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Tim, could you please describe your character as we see them?

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You see a human walk in with a kind of stained, crumpled up, ruffled sort of old timey suit on and just kind of muttering.

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His hair is a little sweaty in the front and kind of frizzy at the back.

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It's tied into a very, let's just say, workman ponytail, sort of graying brown hair, and he has on sunglasses and he's just muttering like,

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God damn it, I didn't have enough time for this one, damn motherfuckers.

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It's okay, sir. It's okay, sir. You'll be totally fine. I've got all the papers here. We'll be able to figure it out. No problem.

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Well, we go, why are we going to his apartment? Why are we going to his apartment? We got the office.

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Well, that's why they're holding him. They said he couldn't leave because remember the two guards down at the bottom of the stairs there, they were the ones.

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I've got a lot of cases. I can't keep track of everything.

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I know. I know. That's why I'm here. I've got all of your books. I've got all of your notes. We know where to be and we're supposed to be here.

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Oh no, seven minutes ago. I think it's the third door on the left there.

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You knock. I'm just, I'm out of sorts.

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Excuse me. I'm just going to push past you. The door is actually open. I'll knock. I'll knock. Hello, sir.

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Staring out at us. Are you Kavlaran Goldweaver?

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No, I'm not.

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That's smart kid. Never answer that. That's the first one. If anyone here is Kavlaran, don't answer that.

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That being said, is there a Kavlaran here? I am your attorney.

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He might be around one sec and I like pop back in, close the door and then open the door again. Oh, hello. Kavlaran here.

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Are you clearly the same guy?

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Yeah, clearly the same guy.

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Gonna be one of those days. Hey, hey, hey. And I put up my hand. Thurston, Thurston, lawful good.

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Dumbgeons and Dragons is a D&D actual play podcast and I'm your dungeon master Russ More, he, him.

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Also with me today is Amy More as Alydin, she, her.

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I think I'm Scooby doing it over here.

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Carla Maxted as Bonwyn Everbane, she, her.

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I'm just gonna go make tea. I'm being very interruptive. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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Tom Laird as Kavlaran Goldweave, he, him.

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Not ambitious enough to pull this off.

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And Kyle Clasett as Bizard the Wizard, he, him.

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I wasn't around for the pirates, but I could ask my mom, I guess.

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With special guest this week from Greetings Adventurers, Tim Lanning, he, him.

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It doesn't have to be a sandwich, but it could be like a shiny rock, an interesting picture, I don't know.

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And now fuck it, let's play.

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Oh, oh, oh, gee, like, okay.

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Thirsty. Got it. Thirst in. Thirst in. Got it.

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Thirst in, yes. You're an attorney appointed for you to help you get out of this mess here.

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Oh, okay, yeah.

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Because, yeah, they said they were gonna assign someone, but they also said that like weeks ago and then no one ever came, so.

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We've got a backlog here.

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Yeah.

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I just got it today.

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Today, my assistant here is keeping me apprised, so I'm playing catch up here.

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Yeah, no, Benson, Benson here.

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My name, Benson, Benson, obviously, is spelled differently both times.

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But yeah, we got your papers two weeks.

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I've been reading them nonstop for the last two weeks.

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Two weeks.

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Definitely, I didn't lose them in a pile, and that's why we're so sweaty right now.

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God damn it. God damn it.

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How big of a pile was it?

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Well, I mean, I'm very short, so it seemed very tall.

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But Thirst in, you tell them how big the pile was.

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I don't have to tell you anything about the pile because you're in a pile of shit right now if you don't get your stuff together, kid.

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All right?

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Yeah.

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Okay. All right.

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So, yeah, like.

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Do we come in?

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Oh, yes, please.

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Oh, sorry.

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My manners are terrible.

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Please come in.

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Oh, thank you.

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Thank you.

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You first, sir.

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It seems you have some friends here.

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Are they also guilty of anything?

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Who cares?

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I mean, we're all a little guilty of something, but no, not in this context.

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Bonwyn.

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Oh, sorry.

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Bonwyn, Allen and bizarre.

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This is Thurston and Benson.

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Oh, I didn't like the way you said that.

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Implied you are guilty of this, but that's none of my business.

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In fact, don't tell me that.

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Better that way.

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Yeah, don't tell us anything.

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Well, except tell us everything, but don't tell us.

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You have to tell us everything, but, you know, be smart about it.

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Lawyer, patient confidentiality.

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Yeah.

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All of you have to give me a gold.

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Allen, it looks, Allen, it looks so bizarre and is like, huh?

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Like I'm Scooby doing it over here.

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I look down at Allen and I'm like, no, it just it works.

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It works better that way for me.

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Well, it makes paperwork go a lot faster in Mr.

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in Mr. Lawful Good's office.

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Lawful Good, Lawful Good.

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Lawful Good.

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I've seen how paperwork goes.

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I've been to Cav's job and that's a lie.

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Money does not make paperwork go faster.

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No, if anything, it slows it down.

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But it obfuscates things is the issue here.

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You got to understand the bureaucracy and the legal side of things.

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It's a smoke and mirrors and the more smoke, the more mirrors.

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OK, so just give me something.

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You got a sandwich.

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You got a interesting rock you found.

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This guy just take a jab at magic, smoke and mirrors.

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What the fuck is that?

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We believe wholeheartedly in magic, sir.

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Do you have a sandwich for Mr. Lawful Good?

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It doesn't have to be a sandwich, but it could be like a shiny rock.

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An interesting picture.

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I don't know.

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Alydin comes running up with a rock.

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Oh, perfect.

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Now you have we have exchanged currency.

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We are yes, I am your free court appointed,

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but they kind of they do some wiggle room back there.

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I'll tell you why those fuckers.

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I look back in my bucket.

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There's a rock in there.

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I'm confused.

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I'm happy back.

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It's not it's not important, but write down that we exchanged the currency.

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Oh, got it. Yep.

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Oh, oh, sorry.

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I thought you meant me.

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Yeah. Why would you write it?

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Who are you going to write it to?

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I don't know. I've never done this before.

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But I like I like the gumption there.

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That's smart.

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Actually, you do you go ahead.

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You write it down.

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So usually the this first part goes is you confess to everything to us

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so that we can protect you and make sure that they don't know that you did it.

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OK, but what about and hear me out here?

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What about if I didn't do it?

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Now, that's what I like.

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I like that as smart gets it.

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He's saying that.

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Oh, but that's the truth.

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I didn't do it.

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Exactly.

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You do a great kid.

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So you are presumed or you're charged with forging documents to bring down the government.

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Paraphrasing here.

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But that's what you're being charged with.

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Yeah, no, that that didn't happen.

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OK, so you you you didn't turn documents into Kingstown.

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I did turn some documents into Kingstown, but they were originals, not forgeries.

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Mm hmm.

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Mm hmm. And OK, you have those originals.

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No. They doesn't they doesn't have the original.

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Do you have anything?

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I know we got to have some sort of trail here.

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I've got some excellent character witnesses.

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OK, you tell us what happened.

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So take us back to the beginning.

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OK, well, OK, I guess, you know, like two parents, pretty normal childhood.

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Had a couple brothers, one sister.

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I didn't know that about the case.

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Yeah, about the case.

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Oh, OK.

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Sorry. Sorry.

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I was I was curious when he when he learned to ride bike.

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I could tell.

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No, I like to get to know.

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I'd like to get to know the client.

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I don't got time for this.

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OK, all right.

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OK, I guess it happened a couple of months ago.

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I was sent down here.

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There were some irregularities on the books.

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And, you know, so they sent their their star employee down to take a look at things.

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And what I ended up discovering along with my friends here is that there was like some real rampant corruption and bribes and various other things going on.

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Wait, you said they weren't involved in this specific incident.

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Well, no, I told them about it.

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So they were there with me in spirit when you found.

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Well, but they're so they are involved in spirit.

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Yes.

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OK, OK, good.

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OK, sorry, we interrupted.

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Oh, well, I mean, there's not too much left.

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I found the books and then the real books.

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And so I got everything out of those real books and took them to Kingston.

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And then what happened to them?

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Well, there I left them with my supervisor.

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Who, Russ, I will be honest, I cannot remember his name.

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Comptroller Wiggums.

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How did you not remember that?

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It's a great question.

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How could I not remember that?

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Well, I left them with Wiggums and and then I hightailed it back here.

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And this was weeks ago.

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Yeah, weeks ago.

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Yeah, it says here you disappeared for three weeks.

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Oh, OK, yeah, well, so that was the thing.

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Alydin kind of got kidnapped by a banjo man in the face.

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So we had to go rescue her.

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It was kind of like a big heroic thing that we did a banjo man.

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I've got a mind booger that I can show them if we need to use that.

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That is good. That is good.

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We could use that. We could use that.

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They tried to disappear one of you to cover it up.

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I like that. That's smart.

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OK, so you disappeared.

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He's got a booger that can that can corroborate the story that you went.

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Yeah, OK, we can follow that.

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And you guys are like adventurers.

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So this happened to you like a lot.

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Why do you have a boring book?

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And what's the situation here?

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There are no schools.

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OK, it's true.

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And we just rescued like a bunch of children.

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So it'd be really nice if there was schools in town.

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That would be good.

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Everything's super corrupt.

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We found evidence.

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Cav found evidence.

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You're telling me?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Every everything.

245
00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,120
I mean, you know, like the streets on the rich side of town are paved with gold, literal gold, and we have no money over here.

246
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So found a lot of evidence of like criminal financial malfeasance.

247
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Yeah, there was a lady named Nina who was kind of behind it all.

248
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Yeah, she's gone now.

249
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Thank God.

250
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Yeah, she mysteriously disappeared.

251
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Not me.

252
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So yet another cog in this machine has been misplaced.

253
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Yes, and that was the Nina.

254
00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:53,120
Nina has disappeared.

255
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Through no fault of your own.

256
00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,120
I mean, we were gone in the fae.

257
00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,120
And we wouldn't have disappeared a person anyway.

258
00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,120
The booger can corroborate that.

259
00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,120
I'm just going to go make tea.

260
00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,120
I'm being very interruptive.

261
00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,120
I'm sorry.

262
00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:07,120
I'm sorry.

263
00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,120
Well, it's good to get all sides of it.

264
00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:11,120
He reaches in.

265
00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:15,120
Benson reaches into one of the folders and pulls out.

266
00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,120
We have some evidence here.

267
00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,120
I don't know if we're supposed to have it with us, but they gave it to us.

268
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It's a budget ledger or at least an excerpt, which looks like now I'll hold it because we shouldn't.

269
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Right.

270
00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,120
We shouldn't let him hold the evidence.

271
00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,120
Yeah.

272
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One sec.

273
00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,120
Benson.

274
00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,120
Come over here.

275
00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:40,120
It seems like these guys piss some powerful people off.

276
00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:41,120
Do we just want to go?

277
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:47,120
I mean, there was a really nice bakery down the street that looked like they had some nice croissants.

278
00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,120
Bakery's great.

279
00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,120
So we could just go.

280
00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,120
What do you got in mind?

281
00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,120
I'm just thinking leave town for a couple of weeks.

282
00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,120
Okay.

283
00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,120
Go to the fae.

284
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Save some children.

285
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Go to the fae.

286
00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,120
Wild Wink.

287
00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:02,120
Banjo Man.

288
00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:07,120
If these guys did what they're saying, then that's a lot of heat for us.

289
00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,120
Yeah, but we've gotten out of tighter situations than this before.

290
00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,120
That's true.

291
00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,120
And I'd really love to really show it to some of those assholes.

292
00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:15,120
Okay.

293
00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:16,120
Sorry about that.

294
00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,120
I had to check on...

295
00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,120
Law stuff.

296
00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,120
Law stuff.

297
00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:28,120
So anyways, I will hold it back here, but this is part of the books that you had turned in.

298
00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,120
Does this look familiar to you?

299
00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,120
If you check your document, he holds up the Vintersmouth municipal budget ledger excerpt,

300
00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:41,120
which is the auditor's copy compiled and initialed by Kavlaran Goldweave.

301
00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,120
And do I recognize it, Ross?

302
00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:48,120
Yeah, it looks very similar to the books that you had found.

303
00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:56,120
However, your initials all over them, all over every entry, is probably a new variable for you.

304
00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,120
I look over the paperwork.

305
00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,120
See, this does kind of look like mine, but it's not mine.

306
00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,120
I can tell you that right now.

307
00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:05,120
Okay.

308
00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,120
So the only evidence we have is you're saying this is forged.

309
00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,120
Yes.

310
00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,120
Yeah.

311
00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,120
If you look at any of the paperwork I've done over the last few years, you will see I do not initial anything.

312
00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,120
Oh, that's good, actually.

313
00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,120
Okay.

314
00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,120
We can use it.

315
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,120
Well, I mean, my supervisor Wiggums would disagree, but yeah, I think it's good.

316
00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:23,120
So I'm checking.

317
00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,120
Comptroller Wiggums is set to be one of the witnesses.

318
00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,120
You know, usually witnesses show up.

319
00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:35,120
Is there anybody else who can corroborate your poor paperwork capabilities?

320
00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,120
Oh, there's a...

321
00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:46,120
And we might want to go send some guards or some private investigation or if you have any favors or if any of you are strong or can blow something up with your mind.

322
00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,120
Might want to make sure they don't get to disappear, too.

323
00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:54,120
Alydin looks excitedly a bazaar when he said blow something up with your mind.

324
00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:55,120
Calm down.

325
00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,120
It'll be fun someday.

326
00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,120
Yeah.

327
00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,120
A really, really good guy.

328
00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,120
I worked with him for a while down here.

329
00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,120
His name's Oak.

330
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:04,120
Oak.

331
00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,120
Like a tree?

332
00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,120
Exactly.

333
00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,120
That's exactly it.

334
00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:08,120
Okay.

335
00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,120
Oak.

336
00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,120
Okay.

337
00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:17,120
Well, we'll find Oak as one of our star witnesses that says you're, well, again, to paraphrase, terrible at your job.

338
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,120
That's correct.

339
00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,120
Yes.

340
00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,120
But you're good enough that you found this stuff, huh?

341
00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,120
Well, see, that's the funny thing.

342
00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,120
I kind of just lucked into it.

343
00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,120
Okay.

344
00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:27,120
Here we go.

345
00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,120
Look, a lot of my life has just been locking into things and it's been working out all right.

346
00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,120
So I'm not going to rock the boat now.

347
00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,120
That's fair.

348
00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,120
I mean, you're being humble is good.

349
00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,120
I don't think we're.

350
00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,120
But.

351
00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,120
Oh, yeah.

352
00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,120
These guys.

353
00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,120
I don't I don't really think that.

354
00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,120
Wait, who are these guys?

355
00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,120
Do they have like a high powered lawyer team?

356
00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:47,120
Oh, it goes.

357
00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,120
It goes all the way to the top side.

358
00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,120
Middle.

359
00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,120
Oh, you name it.

360
00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,120
Spirals up and down.

361
00:16:52,120 --> 00:17:00,120
Sir, sir, they brought in Croker Shaw for prosecution.

362
00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,120
Yeah, we might want to get out of here.

363
00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,120
I don't know.

364
00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,119
It's great meeting you.

365
00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:12,119
If I were you, as I take the with the mind boogers and I would just, you know,

366
00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,119
like you said, there's no schools here.

367
00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,119
I would just like a terrible place to live.

368
00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:17,119
Yeah.

369
00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,119
But if everybody did that, there'd be no good places to live.

370
00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:21,119
Yeah.

371
00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:22,120
That I like it.

372
00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:23,120
All right.

373
00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:24,120
I'm going to cry over here.

374
00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,120
Beautiful.

375
00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:26,120
So.

376
00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:30,120
So the three of you nonpartisan to any of this,

377
00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:37,120
except for the information that you've gained from Kavlaran interesting.

378
00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:42,120
And Russ, it says here in these notes that Kavlaran is a respected auditor.

379
00:17:42,120 --> 00:17:44,120
I haven't heard that yet.

380
00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:50,120
So I'm just want to make sure that that's that's true or because.

381
00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:52,120
Is that just what Thurston has been told?

382
00:17:52,120 --> 00:17:58,120
That is probably just what Thurston's been told.

383
00:17:58,120 --> 00:17:59,120
Perfect.

384
00:17:59,120 --> 00:18:00,120
Yeah.

385
00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:01,120
What's your hearing?

386
00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:02,120
Probably more accurate.

387
00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:06,120
But you know, I think these he would think he would know some of these

388
00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:09,120
behind the scenes pencil pusher numbers types.

389
00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:14,120
And this is he probably a little more nervous if there wasn't a few crayons

390
00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:17,120
missing from the old pencil box.

391
00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:20,120
Is what he would say if there were schools.

392
00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:21,120
Yes.

393
00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,120
It's a pencil box.

394
00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:23,120
Said that.

395
00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:24,120
Yeah.

396
00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,120
That would make.

397
00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:26,120
I don't know what you're saying.

398
00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:27,120
OK.

399
00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:29,120
So we need we need to put together witnesses.

400
00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:33,120
We've got this Comptroller Wiggins if he shows up.

401
00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,120
Oak.

402
00:18:34,120 --> 00:18:35,120
A terrible at your job.

403
00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:38,120
That's what he's going to be able to tell us.

404
00:18:38,120 --> 00:18:42,120
The three of you know Kavlaran fairly well, I assume,

405
00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:46,120
being that you're hanging out having those dried lentils.

406
00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:47,120
Yeah.

407
00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:48,120
Yeah.

408
00:18:48,120 --> 00:18:49,120
I mean, bizarre brought them.

409
00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:50,120
I haven't had any yet.

410
00:18:50,120 --> 00:18:52,120
I was going to soak them.

411
00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:56,120
I might I have some by all means.

412
00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:57,120
Thank you.

413
00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:59,120
So they have delicious snacks here.

414
00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,120
But we've got three character witnesses here.

415
00:19:01,120 --> 00:19:03,120
That's very clear.

416
00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:07,120
Anybody else who can corroborate your story?

417
00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:09,120
Because here's what we think.

418
00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:13,120
Basically, the idea is sounds like you've lost all the evidence.

419
00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:14,120
Right.

420
00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,120
So we need to poke enough holes.

421
00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:18,120
I mean, I turned it in.

422
00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:19,120
I didn't lose.

423
00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:20,120
That's fair.

424
00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,120
I guess.

425
00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,120
Yeah.

426
00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:23,120
Makes sense.

427
00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:24,120
That that will help character witness stuff.

428
00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:30,120
We need to poke enough holes into the Kingstown's story here

429
00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:35,120
that people will not pass the old sniff test.

430
00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,120
It's not really about winning, per se.

431
00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:38,120
Right.

432
00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:44,120
You lost way, way before I walked into this nice apartment

433
00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:45,120
smelling of lentils.

434
00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:50,120
This is more of a we just got to throw enough doubt out there.

435
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:55,120
Make everyone pretty sure there's something not good going on.

436
00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,120
Right.

437
00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:58,120
And then they're going to say you're guilty.

438
00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,120
We'll figure it out.

439
00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:03,120
Oh, I mean, that doesn't sound ideal.

440
00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:06,120
But if that's what you think is like the best course of action,

441
00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:07,120
you're the professional.

442
00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:08,120
That I am indeed.

443
00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:13,120
So, you know, we can give you some truth magics.

444
00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:19,120
We can, you know, if this ledger was manipulated at all,

445
00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:21,120
we can take a look at that.

446
00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:22,120
I know a few people.

447
00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:23,120
Bazaar, is that true?

448
00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:25,120
Is that something that you can do?

449
00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:26,120
Are there truth magics?

450
00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:32,120
In some instances, I've heard of certain areas

451
00:20:32,120 --> 00:20:36,120
that can be put under a lens of truth of some sort.

452
00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:37,120
I'm not sure it doesn't.

453
00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:40,120
It's not a spell that I've researched.

454
00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:45,120
So but I have it does sound it does sound familiar.

455
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:50,120
So I would say if you could verify the magically speaking,

456
00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:53,120
the veracity of some of these things that would that would save me

457
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,120
a couple of favors.

458
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:55,120
I ain't got that many.

459
00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:58,120
Well, let me see what I can.

460
00:20:58,120 --> 00:20:59,120
Let me see what I can look up.

461
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:03,120
Any bizarre just busts out his tone and like is like, OK,

462
00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:06,120
pop onto the desk and bust it open.

463
00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:08,120
Alydin comes over.

464
00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:10,120
I know you got two in there.

465
00:21:10,120 --> 00:21:11,120
Yeah, I do.

466
00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,120
I do here.

467
00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:17,120
OK, they're going to look to see if we can verify that this is,

468
00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:22,120
in fact, magically altered or created in some way, shape or form.

469
00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:23,120
They can do that.

470
00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:25,120
That's that's that's like half the work.

471
00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:33,120
I see here some some possible other allegiances,

472
00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:35,120
some possible other cohorts.

473
00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:36,120
One bench.

474
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:37,120
Oh, yeah.

475
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:38,120
Bench, of course.

476
00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:39,120
OK.

477
00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,120
OK.

478
00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:43,120
And what is your relationship with this bench?

479
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:45,120
Pretty much best buds.

480
00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:46,120
OK.

481
00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:47,120
Best buds.

482
00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:50,120
They have all tattoos together of paperwork.

483
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:51,120
Oh, yeah.

484
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,120
Matching paperwork tattoos with oak.

485
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,120
So you'll be able to see my paperwork in action just from the tattoo.

486
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:58,120
OK, that would be helpful as well.

487
00:21:58,120 --> 00:21:59,120
Yeah.

488
00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:01,120
Or wait, did Oak fill that one out?

489
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,120
OK, don't look at the tattoos yet till I figure it out.

490
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,120
You don't have one of the tattoos on your person.

491
00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,120
Not at the moment.

492
00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:09,120
I don't.

493
00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:10,120
They move.

494
00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:14,120
Well, until I figure out if it was me or Oak that did the paperwork.

495
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:15,120
Roger that.

496
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:17,120
Because I did the paperwork.

497
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:21,120
I don't want them to see that because it's going to be great.

498
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,120
Who is Oak?

499
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:26,120
Oak is my buddy who I worked with at City Hall.

500
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:27,120
Gotcha.

501
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:28,120
OK.

502
00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:34,120
And he oversaw a lot of the day to day of what you yourself did or did not do.

503
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,120
Yeah, he definitely did.

504
00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:40,120
In fact, he helped out a lot with a lot of my stuff.

505
00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:41,120
OK.

506
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:42,120
Or why.

507
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:43,120
Great.

508
00:22:43,120 --> 00:22:44,120
Can you trust him?

509
00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:45,120
Yeah.

510
00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:46,120
I mean, Oak's pretty great.

511
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:47,120
He's not on the take is what I'm asking.

512
00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:48,120
I don't think so.

513
00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:49,120
Did he sell you out?

514
00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:54,120
Is this the same Oak that was recently given a promotion after you disappeared?

515
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:55,120
Ah, kid.

516
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:59,120
Well, I mean, if if if someone's not there to do the work, I mean, it makes sense

517
00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:01,120
that he would be promoted to like step in and do it.

518
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:02,120
Right.

519
00:23:02,120 --> 00:23:08,120
But did he take your job or did he take a higher position of his own?

520
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:10,120
I mean, I don't really know.

521
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:14,120
I woke up in the hospital and they haven't let me go back to City Hall.

522
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:15,120
So.

523
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:16,120
Well, that's probably good.

524
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,120
You don't want to have your fingerprints in too many different places.

525
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:22,120
He really wasn't at the office very much.

526
00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:24,120
That is that is true.

527
00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:27,120
I think most of the time you were supposed to be at work.

528
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,120
You were with us.

529
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:33,120
And Oak was mostly doing like your day to day work generally.

530
00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:34,120
Yeah.

531
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:35,120
Like a good chunk of it.

532
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,120
Yeah.

533
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:40,120
So actually, Thurston, can I see that piece of evidence?

534
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:44,120
I think I found something that might be able to tell us if this is

535
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:45,120
magically doctored in any way.

536
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:48,120
Natural reaction would say no immediately.

537
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,120
But yes, we need to we do in fact need to touch it.

538
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,120
I apologize.

539
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:52,120
OK.

540
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:53,120
Yeah, I'll take that.

541
00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:56,120
Alydin, will you go into my pack over there and bring me an owl feather real

542
00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:57,120
quick?

543
00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,120
Mm hmm.

544
00:23:58,120 --> 00:24:04,120
And I'm going to pull out a good sized pearl out of my pocket.

545
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,120
This guy's this guy's a magician.

546
00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:08,120
He's got so many things just stuffed into pockets.

547
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,120
Just watch him work.

548
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,120
I expect this to happen.

549
00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:11,120
OK.

550
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,120
Got to be prepared.

551
00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:13,120
Here it is.

552
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:17,120
I take take the owl feathers and kind of just like kind of start plucking them

553
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,120
apart, just scattering them on the piece of paper.

554
00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:22,120
Then I take the pearl and just roll it across of it.

555
00:24:22,120 --> 00:24:24,120
It's like give me like 11 minutes.

556
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,120
I've seen it.

557
00:24:25,120 --> 00:24:26,120
It's a ritual.

558
00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:27,120
OK.

559
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,120
Yeah.

560
00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:29,120
No, I've seen this before.

561
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:30,120
That makes sense.

562
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:31,120
This checked out.

563
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,120
Yeah.

564
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:33,120
Yeah.

565
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,120
Of course.

566
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:35,120
Yeah.

567
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:36,120
Magic things.

568
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:37,120
OK.

569
00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:38,120
Mr. Law Fulgood, we we should probably interview some of these people,

570
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:39,120
shouldn't we?

571
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:40,120
Absolutely.

572
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:41,120
This goes all the way to the damn top.

573
00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:42,120
They're going to get disappeared.

574
00:24:42,120 --> 00:24:43,120
Yeah.

575
00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,120
No, we don't.

576
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:50,120
If you guys can get a list, addresses, things of that nature,

577
00:24:50,120 --> 00:24:54,120
something maybe only you guys would know about.

578
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:55,120
Some of you might even want to go with us.

579
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:56,120
I don't know.

580
00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:57,120
Wait.

581
00:24:57,120 --> 00:24:58,120
Are you under house arrest?

582
00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,120
I was.

583
00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:00,120
I didn't ask that.

584
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:01,120
I mean, kind of.

585
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,120
You saw the guards down there.

586
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:05,120
So like they just follow me around.

587
00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:06,120
This is a nice.

588
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:07,120
This is a nice apartment.

589
00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,120
It's more like home arrest.

590
00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:10,120
Yeah.

591
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:11,120
That's true.

592
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:12,120
I like it.

593
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:13,120
Yeah.

594
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,120
Yeah.

595
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:15,120
I like that.

596
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:16,120
That's that's beautiful, actually.

597
00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:17,120
I'm going to write that one down for next time.

598
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,120
Yeah.

599
00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:19,120
Mm hmm.

600
00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:23,120
Well, next time somebody is under house arrest, we can make them feel better.

601
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:26,120
To calm the calm the entire room.

602
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:27,120
That's smart.

603
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,120
That's smart.

604
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,120
Yep.

605
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,120
Mm hmm.

606
00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:31,120
OK.

607
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,120
Well, thank you for that.

608
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:36,120
It took you exactly 11 minutes to put that list together.

609
00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,120
Uh huh.

610
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,120
How are you doing over there, sir?

611
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:40,120
I take the pearl.

612
00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:41,120
I shake it big.

613
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:42,120
Is this thing magic?

614
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:46,120
And I look at the pearl and yeah, I cast the identify spell.

615
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:47,120
What is it?

616
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:48,120
What do I see in the pearl?

617
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:49,120
Is this thing magically imbued in any way?

618
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:53,120
I thought for sure it was going to say try again later.

619
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:56,120
You know, uncertain.

620
00:25:56,120 --> 00:26:01,120
You know, give me another 11 minutes.

621
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,120
Is this thing magically imbued in any way?

622
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,120
This paper you hold in your hands.

623
00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:12,120
There does appear to be some sort of magical enchantment on it.

624
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:17,120
The type of magic, but you get that it was enchantment magic.

625
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:25,120
You get that the effects were that certain figures or totals shimmer or blur under intense scrutiny.

626
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:35,120
A hidden glyph subtly alters numbers or recipients when shown to a neutral observer, creating inconsistencies the prosecution may be able to exploit.

627
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:43,120
And it may contain a delayed misdirection glyph that causes witnesses to misremember key financial details.

628
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,120
Hmm.

629
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,120
Ah, yeah, I'm looking at it.

630
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,120
I'm like big time tampering.

631
00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,120
This is not a normal piece of paper.

632
00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:51,120
Hot dog.

633
00:26:51,120 --> 00:26:52,120
Perfect.

634
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:54,120
Can you tell what's been tampered with?

635
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:59,120
Um, yeah, it looks like it has the hue of enchantment magic.

636
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:06,120
So perhaps there's something that is beguiling in nature to it and that it's making.

637
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:08,120
I would want to say illusion would do that.

638
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:17,120
But an illusion you could see through whereas an enchantment is something that you could affect on somebody without their knowing.

639
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,120
So Billy Magix did some good magic on this.

640
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:23,120
It sounds like if it was if we could dispel that magic.

641
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:25,120
Oh, my God, their heads will explode.

642
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,120
Yeah, you should do it in front of them.

643
00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:28,120
All right.

644
00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:29,120
It's risky.

645
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,120
It's very risky.

646
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:38,120
Are you willing to testify in a in a court of law that this, in fact, is magically enhanced in some way?

647
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:43,120
Because the prosecution is bringing one and he flipped through a couple of pages.

648
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:46,120
William Vanderhootz.

649
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,120
Oh, OK.

650
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,120
Uh, for what reason?

651
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:51,120
For what reason?

652
00:27:51,120 --> 00:28:01,120
Well, they, too, you know, have been doing research on various documentation to see if there has been any magical tampering.

653
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:11,120
And if you basically any evidence that we bring that says, hey, this is tampered or this is a lie, they're going to bring someone that becomes inadmissible.

654
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:15,120
OK, so if that's the case, this becomes inadmissible.

655
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,120
Billy Magix hack.

656
00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:20,120
Who would believe Billy Magix?

657
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:22,120
Who's Billy Magix?

658
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:24,120
William Vanderhootz.

659
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:25,120
Yeah.

660
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:30,120
He goes by Billy Magix now, apparently, and he's shilling out secondhand.

661
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:31,120
Doesn't matter.

662
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:32,120
So he's a clown.

663
00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:33,120
Perfect.

664
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,120
That would make this easier.

665
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,120
Welcome to the middle, everybody.

666
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,120
It's the middle.

667
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,120
Hey, what's up?

668
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,120
Guys, Tim Lanning's on the show.

669
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,120
I know.

670
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,120
So good.

671
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,120
He plays my lawyer.

672
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,120
He's just down the hall right now getting a drink.

673
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,120
So we got to talk real quick.

674
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,120
He just stepped out.

675
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,120
He's so funny.

676
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,120
He's so great.

677
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,120
He makes a million things.

678
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,120
And you should check them all out if you haven't.

679
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,120
But you probably have.

680
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,120
But just in case you haven't, some of those things are.

681
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:08,120
Here's where I insert the list of things that are going on with Tim Lanning.

682
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:13,120
The primary one, which is the one you're likely most interested into just right out of the gate.

683
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:20,120
Greetings adventurers, which is the longest running D&D podcasts in the world, I think is what Tim said.

684
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,120
Like the OG.

685
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:22,120
That's so awesome.

686
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,120
So early that they got DNDpodcast.com.

687
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,120
Exactly.

688
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,120
It's like we're playing with granddaddy D&D.

689
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,120
That's right.

690
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,120
Exactly.

691
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,120
But he's like young and cool.

692
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,120
Yeah.

693
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,120
He's got long hair.

694
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,120
And a beard.

695
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,120
He's so hip.

696
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Little fellow youths.

697
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,120
That's right.

698
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,120
Also, I know in the Discord there's lots of anime chatter.

699
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:54,120
He's got a show, Naruto Revuto, which is now entirely complete where he watches Naruto with a friend of his and they talk about the episode.

700
00:29:54,120 --> 00:30:08,120
And then one he does with his lovely wife, Jennifer Cheek, is Tribulation Farce, a left behind podcast, which is a comedy podcast.

701
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,120
About the Christian fiction series left behind.

702
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:21,120
So Tim and Jennifer vary up on all of this as far as like their life experience and their schooling and all of that sort of stuff.

703
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,120
I've listened to several episodes and it's hilarious.

704
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,120
You should go listen to that one too.

705
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,120
But then, of course, greetings adventurers and Tim will be back soon.

706
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,120
So we should probably get to the point where we dedicate.

707
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,120
Why am I throwing to myself?

708
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Why am I throwing to myself?

709
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,120
I'm not sure.

710
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,120
Don't have a thing ready.

711
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,120
Hear me?

712
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,120
What's the left behind one called?

713
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,120
Tribulation Farce, a left behind podcast.

714
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Sounds right up my alley.

715
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,120
Well, also, our listeners, our patrons, get an episode dedicated to them.

716
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,120
Like today's patron.

717
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,120
Adam Sutcliffe.

718
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,120
Thanks, Adam.

719
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Thank you so much.

720
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,120
Thanks, Adam.

721
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,120
Thanks for being here.

722
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,120
Thank you for listening and being here.

723
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,120
Tim, thanks you too.

724
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,120
He's still out right now.

725
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,120
He dipped in.

726
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,120
He just yelled from the hall.

727
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Thanks, Adam.

728
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,120
And now he's back out.

729
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,120
He'll be back in just a second.

730
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,120
Perfect.

731
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,120
Oh, yeah, I heard that.

732
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:18,120
But we got to get back to this prep for this trial that's going to happen in the next episode after this one.

733
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,120
Guys, I think we're nailing it.

734
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,120
Yeah.

735
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,120
I think it's going really good.

736
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Like we're really good at this as one would expect.

737
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:32,120
You know, in listening back to the episode, we did a very good job at prepping.

738
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,120
Was it the execution?

739
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,120
Well, we're going to find out next week.

740
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,120
So get back to this episode.

741
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,120
Pretty sure it was the habeas corpus, but yeah.

742
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,120
It's probably what it was.

743
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,120
All right.

744
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,120
Probably the habeas.

745
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,120
It's always the habeas corpus.

746
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,120
Thanks for listening, everybody.

747
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,120
Have a great week.

748
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:49,120
We'll talk to you soon.

749
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:50,120
Love you.

750
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,120
Bye.

751
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,120
Bye.

752
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,120
No, no, no, but it does matter.

753
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,120
He's not a truthful, trustworthy guy.

754
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,120
Oh, it's true.

755
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,120
Well, I expected that as much.

756
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,120
Of course.

757
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,120
I feel like I'm probably the only person who could be a character witness to him.

758
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:11,120
And well, I'm not inclined to make him look good in this situation.

759
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,120
So I think that's what I have to recuse myself in that situation.

760
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,120
You're not inclined to make, sorry, Billy Magix or Kavlaran look good.

761
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,120
Billy Magix.

762
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:20,120
Billy Magix.

763
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,120
Fuck that guy.

764
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,120
So William Vanderhootz is Billy Magix.

765
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:32,120
And do you have any evidence that this Billy Magix Vanderhootz is not on the up and up?

766
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Because if we could throw that again, we just got to put cracks here, just cracks.

767
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,120
I don't have anything.

768
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:45,120
He randomly gave a child like random magic stuff.

769
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,120
Oh, don't we still have that box of bullshit that he left with us?

770
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,120
We do.

771
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,120
We named it the box of bullshit, unless your mom threw it out.

772
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,120
I hope she didn't.

773
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:59,120
Okay, I will take that box and I'll see if I can find out if they're faulty or, you know,

774
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,120
try to point out some imperfections and some like obvious, you know,

775
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,120
negligence on Billy Magix's part.

776
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,120
And I think some kind of negligence would prove that they are character witness

777
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:15,120
or inability to properly perform their duties in the line of court.

778
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,120
It's not possible.

779
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,120
He's unreliable.

780
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,120
That's the fucking way to say it right there.

781
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:24,120
Are they going to have anything to bring back to you about this unreliability?

782
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:29,120
I have been an upstanding member of this community for the last 10 years

783
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,120
and have a shop that has brought happiness and joy to many children.

784
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,120
You see Benson Benson kind of quietly flip through a couple of pages and he's like,

785
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,120
and sorry, your name was Bizard?

786
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,120
Yes.

787
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,120
Bizard Brimskeep.

788
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,120
Brimskeep.

789
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,120
I didn't know that was your last name.

790
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,120
Yeah.

791
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,120
Bizard Brimskeep.

792
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:59,120
So Bizard Brimskeep, according to the documentation that was presented to us,

793
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:05,120
is tied to some criminal underbelly, one Kinney Flames.

794
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,120
Doesn't sound familiar.

795
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,119
I know before I said deny, but in this instance you do need to tell us.

796
00:34:12,119 --> 00:34:14,119
About what?

797
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:22,119
OK, now that is good, but it's you do need if if Benson doesn't make stuff up.

798
00:34:22,119 --> 00:34:26,119
I wish you would sometimes, but if you if you know anything about this,

799
00:34:26,119 --> 00:34:28,119
we'll have to know so we can get ahead of it.

800
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:35,119
Kyle, if you want to commit to that role deception and Tim, you can roll insight to see if.

801
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:39,119
OK.

802
00:34:39,119 --> 00:34:42,119
Ooh.

803
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:48,119
Thurston got a 26 on his insight.

804
00:34:48,119 --> 00:34:49,119
You're not doing.

805
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:51,119
Kyle's giggling.

806
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,119
You're not doing anything illegal.

807
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:55,119
Are you Magic Daddy?

808
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:59,119
I got a five.

809
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:02,119
No, let me just tell you, kid, I know things.

810
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:04,119
All right. I know things.

811
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:08,119
And I know that's your your whole whole steam of bull crap.

812
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:11,119
We don't know you to know why you're involved with them.

813
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:13,119
We just need to know that you're involved with them.

814
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:16,119
So there isn't a surprise when we have you up on the stand.

815
00:35:16,119 --> 00:35:23,119
Yeah, there are certain business dealings that have required me to create certain alliances.

816
00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:27,119
I'll say that does not make me feel better, but at least you're thinking about it.

817
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,119
I guess we could work with that.

818
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,119
But you understand certain business alliances.

819
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:37,119
And it just sounds like they're going to throw back in your face what you're throwing in their face.

820
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:45,119
Well, I mean, you know, it was either pay the government for protection or pay Kenny for protection.

821
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:47,119
See, that's that that will play.

822
00:35:47,119 --> 00:35:48,119
That will play.

823
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:50,119
The jurors will will know that.

824
00:35:50,119 --> 00:35:53,119
Right. Like they will experience things like that.

825
00:35:53,119 --> 00:36:00,119
Right. They're they're they're they're uncles and dads and next door neighbors would have to deal with stuff like that.

826
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:08,119
OK, so we've got that covered, that there's possible possible interference that could be thrown our way.

827
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:10,119
Other two character witnesses here.

828
00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:13,119
It was Alydin and Bonwyn, a child.

829
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,119
I'm 14.

830
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,119
You're 14. OK, OK.

831
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:19,119
OK, so can we call a 14 year old to the stand?

832
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,119
Where was this bench creature we were talking about?

833
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:22,119
We got bench.

834
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:24,119
Best buds is what I have written down.

835
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:28,119
Yeah, because we veered off in the tattoos and then you came up with another guy.

836
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:29,119
Right. Yes.

837
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:31,119
Bench owns the Brewed Awakening.

838
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:34,119
It's a cool little spot just in the middle of town.

839
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:35,119
I like cool spots. Perfect.

840
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:36,119
You should go for Wing Night.

841
00:36:36,119 --> 00:36:38,119
Oh, perfect.

842
00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:39,119
OK, Wing Night.

843
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:40,119
So hungry.

844
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:41,119
Yeah.

845
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,119
And then, Bonwyn, you said you knew everybody in town.

846
00:36:44,119 --> 00:36:45,119
I think I overheard.

847
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,119
Well, I mean, I grew up here.

848
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:53,119
My family's been here running a blacksmith shop for oh, God, great, great, great, great.

849
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:56,119
Six, six, seven generations.

850
00:36:56,119 --> 00:36:59,119
So and we used to have schools when I was a kid.

851
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:02,119
So everyone like my age ish.

852
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:05,119
You know, I know all those folks.

853
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:06,119
Mm hmm.

854
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:07,119
Yeah.

855
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,119
Who is your what's your last name?

856
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,119
Everbane.

857
00:37:12,119 --> 00:37:14,119
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

858
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:15,119
That will help.

859
00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:16,119
Yeah, yeah.

860
00:37:16,119 --> 00:37:19,119
Good citizen, good reputation.

861
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:20,119
Mm hmm.

862
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:21,119
Yeah.

863
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:26,119
I mean, I know a lot of the nobles and make their their fancy schmancy weapons for them.

864
00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:27,119
Yeah.

865
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:28,119
Yeah.

866
00:37:28,119 --> 00:37:29,119
I helped.

867
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:36,119
Well, one of someone, whether an aunt or I don't remember which get out of some small

868
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:41,119
claims with this jackass of a nobleman that didn't like the quality.

869
00:37:41,119 --> 00:37:42,119
But it's great quality.

870
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:43,119
All right.

871
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:44,119
So we've got some witnesses.

872
00:37:44,119 --> 00:37:45,119
We should go.

873
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:48,119
We should talk to them.

874
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:50,119
We've got some evidence.

875
00:37:50,119 --> 00:37:55,119
Well, we've got a little bit of we've got a fact that evidence was tampered with and

876
00:37:55,119 --> 00:37:58,119
then some was handed off to this comptroller Wiggums.

877
00:37:58,119 --> 00:37:59,119
Yeah.

878
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:04,119
And would you be able to replicate any of this?

879
00:38:04,119 --> 00:38:09,119
You don't have the logbook, but is there any paper trail of like, oh, we spent

880
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:12,119
two thousand gold for I don't know what.

881
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,119
And clearly they didn't.

882
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,119
Oh, that's a good question, Russ.

883
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:20,119
What does Cav remember about it?

884
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:21,119
Roll history.

885
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:22,119
Oh, boy.

886
00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:28,119
That is 12 on the die.

887
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:31,119
And I'm assuming history is intelligence.

888
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:32,119
So 10.

889
00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:38,119
I mean, he's not the brightest.

890
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:39,119
All right.

891
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:40,119
You.

892
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:42,119
Great.

893
00:38:42,119 --> 00:38:43,119
He's an auditor.

894
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:44,119
Yeah.

895
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:45,119
Like you look back.

896
00:38:45,119 --> 00:38:46,119
Oh, wait.

897
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:47,119
History is a zero.

898
00:38:47,119 --> 00:38:48,119
OK.

899
00:38:48,119 --> 00:38:49,119
Oh, there you go.

900
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:50,119
Proficiency.

901
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:51,119
Nice.

902
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:52,119
Yeah.

903
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:59,119
You look back at the ledger and all the all the numbers, all the names that you saw,

904
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:04,119
you you feel like you could recreate some things you do remember.

905
00:39:04,119 --> 00:39:06,119
What do I have on here?

906
00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:10,119
You do remember a couple of names that aren't don't appear on this specific page,

907
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:17,119
but there are notes about them like Lady Cressida Thorne was a big proponent component

908
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:21,119
who is a noble from Kingstown.

909
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,119
You remember that's probably actually about it.

910
00:39:24,119 --> 00:39:25,119
Great.

911
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,119
I tell them everything I remember.

912
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:30,119
I guess I guess you are really in the in the zone.

913
00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:32,119
And OK, that's fine.

914
00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:33,119
Yes.

915
00:39:33,119 --> 00:39:36,119
And again, where did you find these stumbled upon them?

916
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:39,119
Stumbled upon them in City Hall.

917
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:44,119
In a place locked drawer that just magically opened.

918
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,119
Just magically opened, huh?

919
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:47,119
Yeah.

920
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,119
Just you've got to know what that sounds like.

921
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,119
There's like three different ways to take that bad.

922
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:54,119
I can't think of many good ones.

923
00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:57,119
It sounds like you stole it or it sounds like someone's setting you up.

924
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,119
I mean, it's a little of column A and a little of column B.

925
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:02,119
OK, OK, OK.

926
00:40:02,119 --> 00:40:06,119
It's actually not that outside the realm of things that happen in City Hall.

927
00:40:06,119 --> 00:40:08,119
I'll tell you what.

928
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:13,119
One of the things that you do remember is that where they have your signature

929
00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:18,119
or initials in many places is that in the originals that you had found,

930
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:22,119
Nina was the one to sign off on a lot of those things.

931
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:23,119
That does make sense.

932
00:40:23,119 --> 00:40:30,119
And are you able to get this Nina to testify on your end?

933
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:32,119
Do you think that would work?

934
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:34,119
Oh, no, I do not think so.

935
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,119
And plus she went missing.

936
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,119
Fuck. Yeah, it's gone.

937
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:40,119
When did she disappear?

938
00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:42,119
She disappeared while you were disappeared.

939
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:45,119
Yes, that's my understanding of the situation.

940
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:47,119
OK, so you came back and she was gone. Yeah.

941
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,119
Wonderful. Oh, boy.

942
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:54,119
OK, I don't think Nina was secretly a child and we know.

943
00:40:54,119 --> 00:40:55,119
Certainly not.

944
00:40:55,119 --> 00:41:00,119
I know this place has gotten weird, but it hasn't gotten that weird.

945
00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,119
We kind of head to the Brewed Awakening.

946
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:07,119
Benches behind. Benches are very tall, broad.

947
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,119
Think like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

948
00:41:10,119 --> 00:41:16,119
Late Arnold Schwarzenegger build beer belly, top knot ponytail.

949
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:20,119
And he's sliding some beers down to everybody in the group.

950
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:27,119
And he says, Yeah, so what what can I do for you to help my friend Cav?

951
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:34,119
Well, step one is to put a positive light, your friend Cav.

952
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:42,119
Then if you know anything additionally that could corroborate any of his statements.

953
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:44,119
You're a bartender, you're a final establish.

954
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:46,119
You must hear things. I do.

955
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:53,119
So many a time we have used various tavern keeps and keeps, things like that, that heard a rumor or three.

956
00:41:53,119 --> 00:41:54,119
If you're willing to testify.

957
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:57,119
Yeah, well, I would be willing to testify.

958
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:02,119
But some so he leans in and kind of whispers.

959
00:42:02,119 --> 00:42:12,119
So many nobles hold events here.

960
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:17,119
OK, so he looks to Cav.

961
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:22,119
Who are the bad guys, Cav?

962
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:24,119
That's the kind of friend you want.

963
00:42:24,119 --> 00:42:25,119
That's nice.

964
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:30,119
If I if I remember correctly, it's the lady Crescent of Thorn.

965
00:42:30,119 --> 00:42:33,119
Oh, I don't.

966
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,119
She got longer, shortish hair.

967
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:36,119
She's tall.

968
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:39,119
I mean, I've only ever seen her name written down.

969
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,119
So I have no context for what she looks like.

970
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,119
Great. OK.

971
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,119
This is going like Mayor Knops.

972
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:52,119
He pays for a lot of things that happen here.

973
00:42:52,119 --> 00:43:01,119
If I testify, looks back to you, Thurston, if I testify, am I in trouble?

974
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,119
You won't be in trouble, but I won't lie to you.

975
00:43:04,119 --> 00:43:07,119
Some of these nobles are real nasty snakes.

976
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,119
They might not like it.

977
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:17,119
But if the more evidence we get and if your friend here is as not guilty,

978
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:25,119
then they might be able to use said snakery to push this Cressida out or what have you.

979
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,119
They hate each other as much as we hate them.

980
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,119
So it works out.

981
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:30,119
OK. OK. Yeah.

982
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:31,119
You won't be in trouble.

983
00:43:31,119 --> 00:43:34,119
Yes. No big tea trouble.

984
00:43:34,119 --> 00:43:36,119
But some of them might be. You know how they are.

985
00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:39,119
Oh, yeah. Yeah. OK. I got it.

986
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:47,119
So maybe maybe I tell them that Cav was a great guy and we got tattoos together

987
00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:50,119
and he lifts his shirt and where there should be a tramp stamp.

988
00:43:50,119 --> 00:44:00,119
There is a tattoo of some paperwork that looks to looks like it is to get Bench his business back.

989
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:02,119
He shows you that.

990
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:06,119
Cav helped me get this paperwork and we celebrated.

991
00:44:06,119 --> 00:44:09,119
And then we went fishing one night.

992
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:11,119
Bazaard was there. That was pretty fun.

993
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,119
Yeah. OK.

994
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:19,119
We did drink a lot that night and I don't entirely remember all the things that happened after that.

995
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:25,119
But and then Bench, Cav is here like every day.

996
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:31,119
Like he couldn't have been robbing City Hall or whatever he's guilty of if he was here every day.

997
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,119
Accused of please. Yes.

998
00:44:34,119 --> 00:44:35,119
Accused of.

999
00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:41,119
I mean, we're not going to get super far with just putting a whole bunch of people that are your friends.

1000
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:42,119
Like, no, he's a good guy.

1001
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:45,119
I mean, I don't know. It sounds like a pretty good defense.

1002
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:48,119
I've done it before. It has worked before.

1003
00:44:48,119 --> 00:44:54,119
But I wouldn't I wouldn't really rest my freedom on it.

1004
00:44:54,119 --> 00:44:55,119
OK. All right. Fair.

1005
00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:59,119
So, sir, we have a strong character case.

1006
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:08,119
We have one oak who can convince who apparently can convince that he's actually terrible at his job.

1007
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:18,119
We have Bench best buds who can corroborate that some of the events in this ledger have happened.

1008
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:20,119
You can corroborate some of these events.

1009
00:45:20,119 --> 00:45:22,119
So the events have happened here.

1010
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:27,119
Yeah. Yeah. Some of I guess I don't know specific events that are on the page there.

1011
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:35,119
But they nobles come and they party at the Brood Awakening and they talk business and shop.

1012
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:42,119
They say bench keep quiet and then Ben serves all the wings and the beer.

1013
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:45,119
Interesting. OK. So I could say that. Yeah.

1014
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:49,119
I could point to people in the room and say they were there.

1015
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:51,119
They were there. They were not.

1016
00:45:51,119 --> 00:46:00,119
Do we think I mean, do you think any of these events were part of the mishandled finances?

1017
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:06,119
I mean, I don't remember seeing anything in the book like particularly about that.

1018
00:46:06,119 --> 00:46:09,119
But if the mayor was there, then I think there's a good chance.

1019
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:16,119
Mr. Lawfulgood. So we had evidence of crime, but then they changed the evidence to make it look like Cav did the crime.

1020
00:46:16,119 --> 00:46:19,119
So what do you suggest in your legal opinion?

1021
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:22,119
Other than us saying, no, Cav's a great guy.

1022
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:25,119
How do we what do we do?

1023
00:46:25,119 --> 00:46:31,119
Well, we were bizarre here saying that the document was tampered.

1024
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:35,119
I got to tell you, that's a that's a homerun in my book.

1025
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:37,119
OK, great. Got to thank you there.

1026
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:41,119
The character witnesses just kind of back that up, right?

1027
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:44,119
Saying this is not the type of guy he's doing it.

1028
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:47,119
First of all, I went to your apartment.

1029
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:50,119
I didn't see a lot that jumped out bench.

1030
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:53,119
You can talk. Does he order a lot of food here?

1031
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:56,119
Does he throw money around the way that the nobles do that?

1032
00:46:56,119 --> 00:47:00,119
Cav? Yeah, no, Cav doesn't spend a lot here.

1033
00:47:00,119 --> 00:47:03,119
He gets most of the things for free. Oh, OK.

1034
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,119
Best bud discount. Best bud discount.

1035
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:08,119
OK, so that's two separate things of.

1036
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:12,119
Yeah, this guy sees the nobles come in, throw money like it's no big deal.

1037
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,119
Cav here doesn't.

1038
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:18,119
There would be some sort of trail of no offense.

1039
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:24,119
You do kind of seem like you just kind of let things happen to and around you.

1040
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:27,119
Due to luck, I believe is what you said. So it doesn't.

1041
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:31,119
It's almost like a negative character witness that we can work with, actually.

1042
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:34,119
Oh, sure. Yeah, OK. You wouldn't be able to hide.

1043
00:47:34,119 --> 00:47:37,119
Not ambitious enough to pull this off. Yeah.

1044
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,119
Yeah, no offense. No offense.

1045
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:41,119
Don't do that for years. Don't worry about it.

1046
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:45,119
The case is incompetence, I think, is what we're trying to do here.

1047
00:47:45,119 --> 00:47:47,119
I mean, Oak would probably be.

1048
00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:51,119
I mean, like we said, Oak kind of did a lot of Cav's work.

1049
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:54,119
So he might.

1050
00:47:54,119 --> 00:47:57,119
Well, then maybe Oak is the one who forged all of these signatures,

1051
00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,119
and they're the real.

1052
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:01,119
But maybe he didn't know what he was signing.

1053
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:05,119
But he was such a sweet boy and he loves his mother so much.

1054
00:48:05,119 --> 00:48:10,119
You guys like Oak, but you got to understand you might be you might be playing you.

1055
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:13,119
I mean, I really don't think so, but like I'll keep an open mind.

1056
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:16,119
Do you think Oak's trying to go for your job?

1057
00:48:16,119 --> 00:48:19,119
Well, he's already got it. I mean, he already did it.

1058
00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:23,119
Oh, yeah. And I mean, I'm sorry, Cav.

1059
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,119
Oak deserved his job. Absolutely.

1060
00:48:25,119 --> 00:48:29,119
Right. No question there. Yeah. So.

1061
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,119
OK. Well, can we just pin it on Nina because she's gone now?

1062
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:37,119
We could we could try that. Introduce reasonable doubt that Cav did it and offer

1063
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:44,119
like, oh, what do they say in my mystery novels?

1064
00:48:44,119 --> 00:48:48,119
You know, an alternative perpetrator.

1065
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:51,119
Yeah, we're just going to be throwing out ideas.

1066
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,119
We don't have to prove it. Right.

1067
00:48:53,119 --> 00:49:00,119
You know, make sure the jury doesn't have reasonable opinion that Cav is the one that did it.

1068
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,119
Exactly, exactly.

1069
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:07,119
That you didn't falsify the documents in order to cause some sort of political uprisings.

1070
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,119
Should I know anything about that?

1071
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:11,119
Are you activities?

1072
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:17,119
The four of you, do you guys get up to hijinks that would make the government feel like you're trying to like topple them or what have you?

1073
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:20,119
I pull on Bazaar's sweater and sweater.

1074
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:24,119
I don't know what you're wearing. Your sweater.

1075
00:49:24,119 --> 00:49:27,119
It's hot as hell.

1076
00:49:27,119 --> 00:49:30,119
And go.

1077
00:49:30,119 --> 00:49:35,119
What about the pirates?

1078
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:43,119
I wasn't around for the pirates, but I could ask my mom, I guess.

1079
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:47,119
So my mom's fucking a pirate.

1080
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:49,119
Yeah.

1081
00:49:49,119 --> 00:50:01,119
Now, there was that night that Cav, you were seen with Nina going into the going into City Hall with her to do work.

1082
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:10,119
Right. There was that one night where Nina and you, Nina and you went in.

1083
00:50:10,119 --> 00:50:13,119
Yeah, yeah, that is correct. Yeah.

1084
00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:16,119
And a guard that was there to corroborate that.

1085
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:18,119
Yeah, and I haven't seen Nina since.

1086
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:22,119
Yeah. Yep. That's that's fishy for Nina to do.

1087
00:50:22,119 --> 00:50:25,119
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1088
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:29,119
And their narrative is you did all this to cause unrest.

1089
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:33,119
So you disappearing them and yourself doesn't really make a lot of sense to me.

1090
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:35,119
Exactly. Yeah.

1091
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,119
Don't people do this to get power?

1092
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:41,119
All sorts of reasons. Yeah, I mean, it's all about power, really.

1093
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:44,119
They have the money. They just don't want to pay the appropriate taxes.

1094
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,119
Just feels good to them freaks.

1095
00:50:46,119 --> 00:50:49,119
Cav, do you pay your taxes?

1096
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:53,119
I mean, Oaks filed the last one for me, so I think so.

1097
00:50:53,119 --> 00:50:55,119
Do you at least tip?

1098
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:57,119
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

1099
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:58,119
Okay, there we go.

1100
00:50:58,119 --> 00:50:59,119
Bench nods.

1101
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:04,119
Twenty percent on zero is what?

1102
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:07,119
That's my man right there. I like that.

1103
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:12,119
Okay, so, sir, it seems we have at least the start of a case.

1104
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:16,119
We figured it out on the fly before, and that usually works out okay.

1105
00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:20,119
And is there a reason why the mayor doesn't like you guys specifically?

1106
00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:28,119
I guess that's kind of what I'm getting at is if he's going to accuse you of causing civil unrest, like he'll throw stuff like out like that out there.

1107
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:35,119
Right. But, you know, I just want to make sure just in case you have is there's nothing specific.

1108
00:51:35,119 --> 00:51:37,119
I mean, I don't think so.

1109
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:43,119
I think just the whole turning in the the cooked books would probably be the reason.

1110
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:49,119
I mean, it's like he kind of spins like a wheel and picks like, oh, it's a pervert thing.

1111
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:52,119
It's to get money. It's to hide dead body.

1112
00:51:52,119 --> 00:51:55,119
You name it. This makes sense to me.

1113
00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:56,119
Okay. Okay.

1114
00:51:56,119 --> 00:52:03,119
And was there when this is Tim asking, was there any like mention of of this stuff?

1115
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:06,119
Because it seems like it got silence pretty quickly.

1116
00:52:06,119 --> 00:52:13,119
So it's almost like, well, of the books being like when you gave them in.

1117
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:15,119
So Vinter Smith is split into two sides.

1118
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:21,119
There's the rich noble side and there's the side where you currently are, which is the artisan district.

1119
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:27,119
We'll call it which is as you've walked through the city.

1120
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:30,119
I don't know how we'll say you've been here a couple of times.

1121
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:33,119
The rich noble side is like basically paved in gold.

1122
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:40,119
The artisan district looks like it's been destroyed by monsters recently because it has.

1123
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:47,119
And then there is a third district, which Thurston probably wouldn't know of if he's been here a couple of times,

1124
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:55,119
which is the more criminal underbelly, which exists in the forest just on the edge of town,

1125
00:52:55,119 --> 00:53:01,119
which is where the casino operates and where all of that type of business happens.

1126
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:04,119
Where clearly bizarre has maybe been, maybe not.

1127
00:53:04,119 --> 00:53:09,119
Snitch.

1128
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:11,119
But the DM's telling us to stop.

1129
00:53:11,119 --> 00:53:12,119
Player knowledge, character knowledge.

1130
00:53:12,119 --> 00:53:15,119
You can do with it what you will.

1131
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:26,119
But Thurston would have a good comprehension that the mayor's office and the criminal lord, Kenny Flames,

1132
00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:30,119
probably work hand in hand to allow each other to do certain things.

1133
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,119
Yeah.

1134
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:35,119
And then us poor people are just caught in the middle.

1135
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,119
Kind of get fucked.

1136
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,119
So were we trying to overthrow the government?

1137
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:44,119
We hadn't gotten that far, but like they deserve to get overthrown.

1138
00:53:44,119 --> 00:53:47,119
Are they just trying to throwing out accusations?

1139
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:50,119
No, there's no like.

1140
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:58,119
We thought finding this hard evidence would, you know, we were going about it the legal way.

1141
00:53:58,119 --> 00:54:00,119
Well, that was your problem.

1142
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:03,119
God, that's it.

1143
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:05,119
I'm turning to a life of crime.

1144
00:54:05,119 --> 00:54:06,119
We've all been radicalized.

1145
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:08,119
Now we're bringing everything down.

1146
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:13,119
So aside from being an auditor and the mayor probably not wanting an auditor,

1147
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:14,119
how many I guess.

1148
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:15,119
Hold on.

1149
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,119
How many auditors before you have come here?

1150
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:20,119
Oh, that's a really good question.

1151
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:22,119
I don't know if Wiggums ever told me.

1152
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:25,119
OK, so Wiggums could have that information.

1153
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:27,119
I mean, I would think he would.

1154
00:54:27,119 --> 00:54:29,119
He's been doing that job for like 35 years.

1155
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:30,119
Yeah.

1156
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:31,119
Oak would know, too, if they'd been there.

1157
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:33,119
Oak would 100 percent know.

1158
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:35,119
And is Oak dead?

1159
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:36,119
No.

1160
00:54:36,119 --> 00:54:38,119
I mean, not that I'm aware of.

1161
00:54:38,119 --> 00:54:40,119
I've seen him in a few days.

1162
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:41,119
Got it.

1163
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:42,119
Got it.

1164
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:48,119
I mean, yeah, if this Oak character can corroborate into this, that'd be good, too.

1165
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:51,119
But seems like that's a maybe.

1166
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:52,119
Maybe he needs to protect his mother.

1167
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:53,119
I don't know.

1168
00:54:53,119 --> 00:54:55,119
Yeah, you've mentioned his mother a lot.

1169
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:56,119
Well, he does love his mother.

1170
00:54:56,119 --> 00:54:57,119
Yeah.

1171
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:58,119
I mean, you'll see.

1172
00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:00,119
When you talk to him, he'll bring her up as well.

1173
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:01,119
They're very close.

1174
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:02,119
OK.

1175
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:03,119
OK.

1176
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:04,119
Great.

1177
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:06,119
Well, sir, is there anybody else we should interview?

1178
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:11,119
Before we've got to be in court very soon.

1179
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:13,119
Yeah, we never have enough time to do these things.

1180
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,119
I know.

1181
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:18,119
So we can't find the one disappeared person.

1182
00:55:18,119 --> 00:55:21,119
We got the pub owner that can say he's good.

1183
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:25,119
I've got a couple of character witnesses.

1184
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:28,119
It feels like we're missing something, but we always are, right?

1185
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:29,119
We always are.

1186
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:33,119
It presents itself to us every single time.

1187
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:34,119
Yeah.

1188
00:55:34,119 --> 00:55:37,119
As lucky as he says, I'm sure something weird will happen.

1189
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:40,119
I always like lucky clients.

1190
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:41,119
Makes my job easier.

1191
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:42,119
It does.

1192
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:47,119
It makes it go quick, anyways, because either they are lucky and we win, or they aren't

1193
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:48,119
lucky, and it's a quick trial.

1194
00:55:48,119 --> 00:55:50,119
And we get paid regardless, so it's not that big a deal.

1195
00:55:50,119 --> 00:55:51,119
He reaches for a high five.

1196
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:52,119
Let's go.

1197
00:55:52,119 --> 00:55:53,119
Bye, man.

1198
00:55:53,119 --> 00:56:05,119
Dumbgeons and Dragons, season four, episode 33, starring Amy More as Alydin.

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00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:07,119
Carla Maxted as Bonwyn Everbane.

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00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,119
Tom Laird as Kavlaran Goldweave.

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00:56:14,119 --> 00:56:20,119
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00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:21,119
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00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:25,119
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00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:31,119
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00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:33,119
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